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Started by quicktoy, April 16, 2008, 05:52:23 PM

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Thanks HD, I'll see how it goes at Summit in late May, I don't like racing if its gonna be a runaway, I enjoy being competitive, don't get me wrong, winning is great, but some races have been runaways and others I rode as hard as I needed to win, with something left in reserve...I prefer leaving it all on the track and lose (Daytona Supertwins race) than runaway with them...plus, riding with the expert class will only help me get faster...I do this stuff for me, I love good competition...I would love to be able to get into the top ten with the experts someday, that for me would be an accomplishment.
Just got back from Round 5 of the GNCC in TN, my girl wrecked pretty bad, but still pushed on to finish, she's holding down 4th in points so far! I will be contacting CCS this week about supporting a race at Summit...I'll post the results of our talks here...
See you at the races!

Dennis

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wow, this thread will be my legacy and the ends dont reflect the means.  Was just asking a simple question and look at the battle zone LOL
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naya the dingo

Quote from: MELK-MAN on April 16, 2008, 07:25:53 PM
i think its gay that AM riders get paid..

Damn, I just lost a little respect for you.  It costs me a hell of a lot of money to race too, and I bet I make a lot less $ than you.  Get a little faster and get an AMA ride and stop whining.
Lory Shifflett
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ScubaSteve

Quote from: naya the dingo on May 06, 2008, 03:24:13 AM
Damn, I just lost a little respect for you.  It costs me a hell of a lot of money to race too, and I bet I make a lot less $ than you.  Get a little faster and get an AMA ride and stop whining.

He's to old for a AMA ride
Steve

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MELK-MAN

thanks for reminding me Steve :wah:.. and CLEARLY the guy 2 posts up did not read the entire thread. I just love guys that scan the first few posts then throw their 2c in.. :jerkoff:
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Quote from: LilJayRR on April 17, 2008, 12:24:34 PM
Yeah AM's should have to pay double just to enter races, and that money should be given to all the experts just for showing up on the grids and allowing the AM's to behold thier greatness and inhale thier exhaust fumes!

Don't reward them for anything, they are NOTHING! and dont amount to ANYTHING!

Nice attidude of entitlement! Its nice to see what some of you really think about us AM's.... And FYI this AM does sit out races when there is no $'s on the line. I'll enter every UL GP that has purse $'s, no purse $'s I wont enter. I dont race 'no matter what', If you want more expert purse payout figure out a way to get more sponsers involved in the sport, keep more expert class racers active in the sport, while encouraging more new racers to the sport. Promot the sport, get more pople to comeout and watch. What is the average length of a club racers carrer? 3 yrs or so? Why? Cost plain and simple, and you want to take away what little purses there are for AM's...

That attidude I bet will surely stimulate the sport.

I'm with ya man..

Yeah, lets see I'm an AM new to the sport, I have all the money in the world to come out and race all these races jsut to be lucky enough to get a block of wood....thats awesome, makes me feel special...look at me I just won a block of wood and it only cost me like 2 grand...

Let me ask you "experts" why you feel you should get pay outs and AM shouldn't?  What hard work and money do you put into your racing that is any different then us AM's?  Maybe there is something I missed?  We have to start somewhere, just like I'm sure most EX's did...whats funny is I bet I could hang with most of you so called experts.. :)

naya the dingo

Quote from: MELK-MAN on May 06, 2008, 10:48:06 AM
thanks for reminding me Steve :wah:.. and CLEARLY the guy 2 posts up did not read the entire thread. I just love guys that scan the first few posts then throw their 2c in.. :jerkoff:

Great response dude, I read a quite a bit of your rambling bullshit before I posted.  This is my first year racing, and I hope to continue for years to come.  Just so you know I'm not some "random" asshole posting anonymously, I pitted directly across from you at CMP, I'm the rather large person with one thumb on the 1000RR.  I just finished my 2nd race event this past weekend at Summit, and to my surprise, finished 3rd in Unlimited Supersport.  If I can keep picking up speed, I should be able to win a couple of bucks to help pay for gas and tires, etc.  I would never in a million years stay an AM and cherry pick if I was good enough to be in the expert class.  The best way I know of to get faster, is to race against faster people.

The only point that anyone made that I would deem valid, would be that the money could possibly make an inexperienced racer take chances and ride over their head to finish in the money; however my experience has been, people who ride like assholes and make bonehead moves, will do so regardless of whether there is money involved or not.  I will apologize for coming off as a dick, because that is the complete opposite of who I am.  I am new, and I don't have many posts, but I am also a person who does have an opinion.  I just strongly disagree.
Lory Shifflett
CCS Ex. 270
WERA Ex. 271

JBraun

Everyone listen up, the newbies are holding court, and have all the answers.

Did it ever occur to any of you rookies that every expert has been in your shoes, and you've never been in theirs?
Stick around a few years, you'll understand...
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klebs01

This is my second year racing as an AM ( did two weekends last year). I don't understand how these AM expect to get paid.  Generally in sports, taking money would violate amateur status.  Even for getting that, why should someone get paid to be the winner of a race when they aren't even close to the fastest in that class that day.  The whole point of the AM class is to provide a place to learn, that's it.  If you feel the need to race for money, then find a way to move up.  Once you can compete with the fastest guys then you deserve to take the money.
Nathan Kleba  AM #72

Sobottka

 
Quote from: JBraun on May 06, 2008, 12:27:12 PM

Did it ever occur to any of you rookies that every expert has been in your shoes, and you've never been in theirs?
Stick around a few years, you'll understand...
exactly, this argument requires a perspective that ams dont yet have... maybe the question to all the ams w/ their panties in a bunch should be why should they get cash purse money in addition to contingency? why shouldn't the experts who are shelling out serious cash to be competitive and have a higher level of skill/speed get all the purse money? all you ams who think an extra 100 or 200 bucks a weekend makes racing any easier are kidding yourself. for example i spent as much on tires (for hpt) as I won in unlgp for my entire am season (and i podiumed almost every race).
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Quote from: Bappe on May 06, 2008, 11:22:14 AM
...whats funny is I bet I could hang with most of you so called experts.. :)

Time to bump up then and start earning some "serious" cash!  Cherrypicker!

ScubaSteve

Quote from: Bappe on May 06, 2008, 11:22:14 AM
...whats funny is I bet I could hang with most of you so called experts.. :)

Thats what they all say till they hit the EX ranks. Since your so confident maybe you should bump up and show Exs whats up.

You Am's will understand when you get to our shoes.
Steve

CCS FL