Friggin lappers!!!!

[THE_D.O.C.]

grappa pally!!!

[1fastmofo]

Its much the same as the drain plug incident at VIR...

Picture its YOU, or better yet, your son or daughter thats out on track racing, and some backmarker  chops their nose off, or runs with a loose drain plug...

What feeling do you think went though Dave Bostrom's stomach as he watched Ben, or Yvon or Linnea's?? How about if the oil drain plug had fallen out at the top of the corkscrew, or going into trun one at Brainerd? Does it take an experience like Kato's to get the AMA to tighten things up? How many guys have to get injured or killed before its ok not to let everyone with a lisc race?

Lets see here.... Fontant, Sears, Laguna, RA, Brainerd, VIR, and Barber all had the outcome of the race effected by a backmarker...

Ok, I'll chime in. Why not? The incident at VIR could've happened to any licensed racer. Part of that problem falls in the hands of Tech Inspection. Sure the rider / rider's crew forgot to safety wire the drain plug. But, that should've also been caught by tech. Either way, just because there was a mistake doesn't mean that rider doesn't know how to race and shouldn't make the grid.

As far as backmarkers affecting the race... it is the faster rider's responsibility to make a safe pass. It doesn't matter if they're going to be lapped or if they are in 1st place and are about to be passed. The racer making the pass is responsible for making a safe pass.  ::)

Whether you are a backmarker or a factory rider, you're going to affect the outcome of the race. That's the whole point of a race. If there weren't riders out there to affect the outcome of the race. There would be no race.  :P

[jnup]

about the lapped rider affecting the outcome, didn't yates completely affect the outcome of the wsbk race at laguna.  maybe the wsbk regulars should vote to get rid of the wildcard rule so they don't have to worry about one off rides screwing up their season long points battle.

[Dawn]

This topic sure makes for some long and interesting threads.....

Dawn   ;)

[Dawn]

about the lapped rider affecting the outcome, didn't yates completely affect the outcome of the wsbk race at laguna.  maybe the wsbk regulars should vote to get rid of the wildcard rule so they don't have to worry about one off rides screwing up their season long points battle.

Oooooo.......


GOOD POINT...!!!!!

I'm looking for the response on that one.

Dawn   ;)

[THE_D.O.C.]

i'm looking for the response to prove when, and where he's raced a motorcycle.

[Frank_Angel]

about the lapped rider affecting the outcome, didn't yates completely affect the outcome of the wsbk race at laguna.

Affected the AMA Superbike championship. EBoz was in the lead going into Laguna and 2nd after the AMA race before he was injured. That had a bigger impact on the championship than anything any "lapper" did all season.

[tcchin]

I'd hate to jump to any conclusions, but here's some info from the amateur results archive that may shed some light on things:

#123 TRISTAN SCHOENEWALD, CAMARILLO, CA. Advanced Motion Control,Dr. Duc Motorsp

#7  RICHARD H OLIVER  AUBERRY , CA YAM 250  STICKERSOLUTIONS.COM / D SCHOENEWALD / YAMAHA / DUNLOP  

Team Oliver is Sponsored by:

The Rich Oliver Mystery School and www.richoliver.net Yamaha Motor Corp., USA
Wilson's Motorcycles
Advanced Motion Controls



If I'm not mistaken, that should be fatboy, and possibly his dad...  I wonder why he needs the stage name in this forum - his race results are pretty good.

[Team_nuclear123]

ROFL...

Tristan is my racer, but he is of no relation... His father is one of Rich's major sponsors, as he has been to Jake, among others.... Tristans fathers company sponsors Rich and Tristan. I dont race, I build and tune the bikes. I guess Im to fat old and slow to race...

But fatboy, Im not... The team name comes from the first nukes we tested on Japan, Fatman and Littleboy. Tristan started riding when he was 12, and Ive been building his bikes ever since. Im the fatman, he's the littleboy, and the name stuck. Come see how fat I am in person at Phoenix..... Or better yet, come call me fatboy... How did this get personal... you guys crack me up!

The names at the bottom of the profile are the team sponsors that provide us with product, or money, or both.

As far as laguna goes.... Yates made a mistake that he and Eric both regret, Im sure, I know that even entering that race is regreted by Eric. In the AMA race the Lappers got in the way just like in most every other race this year... And BTW, the WSB guys were complaining about the wildcard guys, and quite loudly.

Lets see.. Who has made comments about lappers being in the way this year... Kurtis, Eric, Ben, Mat, Miguel, Jake, Hacking, Bucky, Spies, Gobert, damn near everyone that has to deal with them... But its the lappers RIGHT to get in the way... and to race...

Whatever, its a mute point in this forum, its TOTALLY lost here...

and doc, learn to read... I listed it earlier....

At least with CCS there are hardly any lappers... right?? So all you guys that can second guess Ben and outride him dont have to worry...

I know.. why not look at Bens results when he was on a ZG600.. .Oh wait.. he must have had parts that were HGA THATS why he was so fast... He always ran on the best tires, and the best equipment... ROFL...

[THE_D.O.C.]

you can ROFL all day clown. (and you have, must be quite dirty by now)

you said "roadrace speedway flattrack yada yada"

i say prove it.

liar.

your posts make no sense. and you sir, are the weakest link. if i were "your racer" tristan, i'd stay far away from you.  :-*

[Team_nuclear123]

Yeah, I guess his results bear out my lack of biek knowledge...

What are your results so far this year clown?

[THE_D.O.C.]

haven't raced much this year, but don't worry i have, and actually won a bunch. go checck 2000 SE results if you wish.

tristan's results aren't yours, they are his. i say, you've never raced, but you think you know everything about racing. and THAT, is truly sad.

clown.