Friggin lappers!!!!

[Photo_Chick]

Actually Bostrom crashed and took one who took out another and so on.  I was standing right there when it happened.  It wasn't the privateers fault at all.  I love Bostrom but he was going in to hot and couldn't handle it.  Happens to everyone, even the big boys.  I for one would hate to watch a race with only factory riders.  We all like to cheer on our local boys.  If it was just the factory riders, I wouldn't even bother to go.  All the riders is what makes it exciting.  Shall we take the privateers and put them back in club level?  Then everyone would be complaining that the needed to be in the AMA...If we put them back in the club level, how many races would you win?  Or if they lap you, should we then take you off the track and out of the races???  Just some thoughts....

[ronin]

 ;Dlets hear it for photo chick, glad to hear from someone who was there.

[fourandsix]

Funny thing is the guy that caused it was the same dumbass that ended Scott Russel's career.... Dangerous Dean Mizdal.

I wouldn't blame Russell's career end on anybody but himself . He had bike problems and instead of staying parked with his hand up he moved his bike toward the edge of the track. I think you have an e-mail from your a$$ asking you to remove your head!

[GSXR RACER MIKE]

I think you have an e-mail from your a$$ asking you to remove your head!

     OMG I'm LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!


     I remember seeing Russel interviewed awhile after he had recovered from his injuries and he admitted that it was all his fault for not following the rules and staying put and putting his hands up and waving them to attract attention to himself.

[Team_nuclear123]

I was standing on the pit wall with the Ducati team when that happened, Mizdal was as far back as he could have been and if he would have lifted his head up, he wouldnt have hit him. Simple as that. He hit a STOPPED rider. Scott had moved about 2ft to the OUTSIDE of the track when mizdal hit him. Had he not moved, he would have hit him full force. Another example of a guy racing for 20th place screwing up a great race, and ending a racers career.

The friggin lappers should not have been in the race to begin with. Race to win, race for a championship. but dont be involved with the race by being a rolling chicane.

Photochick, Im glad you were there, I wasnt, but I did talk to Ben. he and damn near every other factory rider all share the same opinion... lappers suck, and have no business being in the premier class. Thats what the support classes are for.

I watched the race with a friend of mine that has won a superbike championship, and a couple of WSB ones. He said that if the slow ass out of control lappers werent in the way, battling over 20th place, then we wouldnt have seen a half million worth of HGA money written off.

I know this is a club racer board, but damn, show the factory guys some respect already. Ben had the front wheel locked up damn near straigh up and down trying to slow down for a guy that should never have been on the track. HE NEVER SHOULD HAVE BEEN THERE. Why race for 20th? have one class set aside for guys with talent above the others. There are planty of other classes that those guys could go out and get lapped over and over in.

the AMA needs to tighten up its rules, and institute the use of a blue flag. They also need to punish or ban riders that ignore it.

[Team_nuclear123]

Hmmm what did Eric say about it???

"I missed it right up to the point of lapped traffic, then I walked away" Eric said. "It's painful watching, although it was a really good race today until lapped traffic, just like always. The series could be so much fun to watch as a spectator, instead it's just lame. I hate it. I actually hate watching the racing"

One vote for lappers ruining it... But what would Eric know.

[Jeff]

Dude.  Do you even race?  Or do you just b1tch about lappers?

The incident of Scott Russell was absolutely HIS OWN fault.  

I don't give a sh1t where you were sitting, until you are ON a bike, launching from the grid and fly past a guy stalled, you have no clue what you're talking about.  

When you launch, you expect the bikes in front of you to be traveling at relatively the same speed as you.  There is a hell of a lot of movement in your field of vision, and perceiving a stalled rider is very difficult, UNLESS they are standing up WAVING as they SHOULD BE.

Russell made a dumb move.  We all do.  Occassionally people pay dearly for dumb moves...

Lappers are a part of racing, plain and simple.  You don't like them?  Stay on the street...

"team nuclear"...  we know how you got that name!

[Team_nuclear123]

No, I dont race anymore. Ive only road raced, flat tracked, speedway, snowmobil, group 3 cars, drag raced, and raced an NMRO truck, I have no idea about racing....

Lappers are a SAD part of superbike racing.

But you sound like you speak from experience as a lapper...


Team Nuclear... My temper isnt even a part of it... remember the names of the first two nukes we tested on japan?

NO LAPPERS IN SUPERBIKE Get a friggin clue. Have ONE class that isnt decided by some backmarker.

[Nate R]

What race series doesn't have lappers? Nascar has them, CART, F1, MotoGP, WSS, etc, etc, etc.

[Super Dave]

Funny thing is the guy that caused it was the same dumbass that ended Scott Russel's career.... Dangerous Dean Mizdal

Whoa!

I have to reply to this first.

Scott stalled the bike and didn't do what he was supposed to.  

And he did the same d@mn thing in the 1989 Daytona 200.  So, consistency counts.

Credit where credit is due.

[Super Dave]

    Using Duhamels' time as the fastest and Jacobis' as the slowest, Jacobi was running at 104.89% of Duhamels time.

Sweet.  That's the truth.

And I'm sure the Dean's bike has many factory parts and a support package too...

[Super Dave]

Dawn, this isnt club racing, this is the highest form of motorcycle racing in the US, and in order to elevate it, we need to run it as professionals..

How many lappers were in the MotoGP race today? none, ever.

And all of those teams have a lot of support.

The AMA has a rules package that is completely unatainable by anyone except the factorys.  Give Jacobi a works set of Showa forks and about 25 more HP and I'd bet that he'd be further inside the 105%.  

The whole package would be more fun to watch and at least it would be a bit more legitimate, period.  Why don't more people watch?  The lack of competitiveness because of machinery and support, not the riders.