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Why AMA road racing will never be big time...

Started by Super Dave, March 17, 2005, 06:00:19 AM

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Dawn

QuoteAnd I've stated a whole lot of opinions over the years that no one listened to...

This is nothing different.


However it's not a two way street.  You offer opinions, but you don't listen or perhaps consider what others say.  I've seen it time and time again on the board. Don't get me wrong, you have a wealth of knowledge we appreciate it when you share, but if anyone challenges you, you get defensive.  

All I said is that weight makes a difference....  Then you tell me I'm wrong.  If weight doesn't make a difference, why does all the race teams from MotoGP through the club level look at ways to reduce the weight of their bikes and riders?  Heck, even Ed Key has thousands and thousands of hours in his bike on this very subject.

There are those who are wonderful mentors....  Ed is one, he gives and provides feedback but he also takes what others have to say, processes it, any may even try it himself.  This is a two way conversation and all benefit from it.

Just don't ever tell me that Paul doesn't try because....

Nevermind....

I'm done.


Super Dave

QuoteJust don't ever tell me that Paul doesn't try because....

Show me where I said that he doesn't try....

Just quote it...
Super Dave

Old808

QuoteHowever it's not a two way street.  You offer opinions, but you don't listen or perhaps consider what others say.  I've seen it time and time again on the board. Don't get me wrong, you have a wealth of knowledge we appreciate it when you share, but if anyone challenges you, you get defensive.
Really?  Never noticed it.  ;D

Super Dave

However...

QuoteUnfortunately as in any other sport only a few talented individuals will ever make it to the top.  

And that applies to a lot of things.

I could go on and on about psychology and why somethings work for some people and some things don't.  If making things light get's your mind futher into the task at hand, then it makes you faster.  Recognize those things.  Mind games are powerful...manufactured by hype, personal, etc.
Super Dave

Super Dave

QuoteYou offer opinions, but you don't listen or perhaps consider what others say.  I've seen it time and time again on the board. Don't get me wrong, you have a wealth of knowledge we appreciate it when you share, but if anyone challenges you, you get defensive

Ah, well...

The first thing that is assumed is that I haven't considered what others say.

Would we like to sit and talk about bikes that I drilled and lightened, if we want to use a current example?  

There are times when I share what I've done.  Theory is one thing, but having actually gone out and experienced on thing because I did it is very different.  

Being that as it is, it's an actual experience.  After that, if I share, someone can listen or not.  

Challenge?

Goes two ways?  

We can either just offer meaningless comments to each other, or discuss...

Is knowledge gained from statements or discourse?

I apologize for offending those that have been offended.  I'll temper my comments to those who I feel that might not understand my thought process.  

Good luck.



Super Dave

Dawn

QuoteShow me where I said that he doesn't try....

Just quote it...


Here's just a few....

QuoteIf that's the case...no one should race against him.

But on any Sunday, there are variables.

There are small guys in superbike, and they get beat by Mat Mladin.  He's taller than me.  So, is Yates.

Ed's biggest advantages are in his hands and in his head.  You're just reinforcing the fact that everyone is lookng at the machine as the only reason for his winning.



QuoteWe're not saying that it is the ONLY reason he wins.  I'm just saying that his size is an advantage.


Dawn

QuoteHis size is an advantage in as much as Mladin's size is a disadvantage.

Doesn't change the outcome.  No one at the regional level, wants to sit down and actually beat Ed.  




stumpy

I think EVERYBODY can give themselves an advantage by losing a little weight and not on the bike, Sure Ed has an advantage because of his weight,(not the only reason he wins) but so can anybody. I don't only work hard during the race season but work harder on the off. I don't have the money for all the trick ti parts but I have the heart to bust my butt at the gym 7 days a week. It's sure not easy but if it was easy the gym's would be packed, there not. But the bars sure are.

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stumpy

After reading the title of this thread...


Why AMA road racing will never be big time...
Because Ed Key is skinny ???



Stumpy
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Dawn

QuoteAfter reading the title of this thread...


Why AMA road racing will never be big time...
Because Ed Key is skinny ???



Stumpy


LOL!!!!

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I remember someone beating Key at Blackhawk. #158 I think, flat black sv with red trim.  Well, it was raining, but he was proud of the accomplishment nonetheless. As would anyone.