NEED HELP! F2'S IN LIGHTWEIGHT CLASSES!

[backMARKr]

Im sorry if you dont like me, but deal with it and enough with your snide passive agressive comments.

YEAH MAN!!! ....you better leave me alone too...or I am gonna sic Kyle on you....whoever you are?!?!?!?

[Burt Munro]

Do I owe you $5?

[Burt Munro]

YEAH MAN!!! ....you better leave me alone too...or I am gonna sic Kyle on you....whoever you are?!?!?!?

I'm not worried.  I have my GAYDAR turned on - I'll hear him coming! (I mean arriving!) 

[backMARKr]

I'm not worried.  I have my GAYDAR turned on - I'll hear him coming! (I mean arriving!) 

....that's it...uncle, tap out...

[tstruyk]

YEAH MAN!!! ....you better leave me alone too...or I am gonna sic Kyle on you....whoever you are?!?!?!?

kyle bites strangers... true story.

[backMARKr]

kyle bites strangers... true story.

Yep...it's why we don't have an attack dog...don't need one!

[benprobst]

Ben,

If you think my ego needs to be fed by 'following you around' you're dead wrong.  I think it's universally accepted on this board that I'm an equal opportunity muck raker.  I'm here for fun, sharing some information and I'm not afraid of making politically incorrect statements.  I say things sometimes that others can't or won't say for fear of retribution at the track or for for other legtimate reasons. But things that sometimes need to be said.  I call people out when they say something stupid or humorous.  In your case it repeatedly seems to be the former.

Ben, I don't know if anyone has ever told you this but, you have a very high opinion of yourself and your abilities - far beyond your years.  Sort of like a 'Nate Kern Lite' without all the financial missteps and the media hype attitude.  You remind me of a lot of other people I have known in your age range in a variety of interests.  You want to get to the top and you want it NOW!  Being driven for success is a wonderful personality trait.  As long as it is measured with a certain amount of respect for those who came before you and who have learned a few lessons the hard way that you have yet to experience.

I wish you nothing but success in your racing career and as you gain experiences the wisdom to keep those events in their proper prospective.  Race with humility towards others and win with careful compassion that will cushion your fall when it invariably comes.  At some point there may be only one way out of a situation and hopefully it won't be over a bridge that you've already burned.

Burt

Im sorry you feel that way, honest. I think the Nate comparison is going a bit far, but its your opinion and youre entitled to it. A thing im sorry for is that your picture of me has been drawn by how you see me on an internet bulletin board, and I dont think it portrays an accurate picture, a smart ass comment here and an over confident jesting jab there when read online and not heard in person with the wink and smile can come off the wrong way. I hope you get to deal with me more in person in the future, as im sure most who know me personally will agree im not like that. I dont have an inflated image of myself, I think I know very well what my limitations and abilities are in this sport, however I do have confidence in those abilities, something if you plan to spend any time in this sport you will find to be true in most all successful roadracers. Youre right, I do want success badly, but im taking my time getting there, working my ass of at work as well as climbing up the ladder slowly, riding the slow motorcycles, measuring my risks vs. benefits constantly and so far we are on track. I dont plan to be at my peak for another 2-3 years, but im going to do whatever it takes to get there. Assuming you are Rich the flag guy, thanks for your time and effort, Im sure Ill see you on the way. 

[F2RGK]

Wow, my ears are ringing again.  K3, I think you've said a lot.  That adds to what I've been trying to get across.  As far as Ed K. and Bartz Manufacturing, Inc. crew...SO WHAT!  Let them try. Ed is a great rider and fair player, Bartz is his apprentice.  I've raced against Bartz and had fun.  I will look forward to next year racing against Mr. Key.  Why you ask?  It's called competetion, sport, and most of all fun!  I know everyone in either class and it's just plain fun for me.  Ok, enough said.  I looove you'z guyz....Now let's race!!!

[benprobst]

kyle bites strangers... true story.

I heard Kyle ate TWO mountain lions at ONCE, but was soon gobbled up by jojo bits.

[EX_#76]

Wow, my ears are ringing again.  K3, I think you've said a lot.  That adds to what I've been trying to get across.  As far as Ed K. and Bartz Manufacturing, Inc. crew...SO WHAT!  Let them try. Ed is a great rider and fair player, Bartz is his apprentice.  I've raced against Bartz and had fun.  I will look forward to next year racing against Mr. Key.  Why you ask?  It's called competetion, sport, and most of all fun!  I know everyone in either class and it's just plain fun for me.  Ok, enough said.  I looove you'z guyz....Now let's race!!!

I agree with Chris in terms of all LW classes except SS.  My stand point is only from an SV guys point of view.  I like racing against other engine configurations, it taught me a few things about the power delivery of an in line 4 vs a V twin.  George Linehart and I have had some great fun (Me on and SV and him on an F2).  They both have their strong points and you must learn how to capitalize your package (yes I said package LOL)  I just wanted to see some limitations on in line 4 mods to keep a balance for all of the competitors.  Chris is right, build the crap out of an in line 4 and it will be more difficult to ride, at least until you get to a long track where it can stretch its legs.  Anyhow, who are you, and what is your #?  I really do not think that the rules will change, this thread alone proves that there is allot of contentions on how to implement this idea.  I personally would like to see it happen with a few restrictions.

Guy

[F2RGK]

I agree with Chris in terms of all LW classes except SS.  My stand point is only from an SV guys point of view.  I like racing against other engine configurations, it taught me a few things about the power delivery of an in line 4 vs a V twin.  George Linehart and I have had some great fun (Me on and SV and him on an F2).  They both have their strong points and you must learn how to capitalize your package (yes I said package LOL)  I just wanted to see some limitations on in line 4 mods to keep a balance for all of the competitors.  Chris is right, build the crap out of an in line 4 and it will be more difficult to ride, at least until you get to a long track where it can stretch its legs.  Anyhow, who are you, and what is your #?  I really do not think that the rules will change, this thread alone proves that there is allot of contentions on how to implement this idea.  I personally would like to see it happen with a few restrictions.

Guy

In answer to your question, who am I?  I am Ron Kopec aka, Big RoNny!  Race #498 Amateur--2007 Midwest Region Thunderbike Champ, 2007 National Thunderbike Champ....but hey, nobody likes a bragger--So I'm not braggin'!  Just having Fun!

[K3 Chris Onwiler]

Guy, I agree about Supersport.  As Ed Key, the most blatant non-cheater in Supersport history has pointed out many times, SS should be for stock motorcycles.  When I had my FZR560, it was not SS legal, so I raced GTL, LWSB and LWGP.  I'd have loved to race Thunderbike, but after I'd done a few races in that class, it was politely pointed out to me by a competitor that since my barrels and cylinder head for the 560 package had not come in the frame that I was running, my bike was technically illegal even though it fit the year and cc requirements.  Oops!  Sadly, I quit running that class.  Still, three races per weekend is a good number, and if the F2 was made legal it could race them all PLUS Thunderbike.
Seems to me that the Fizzer 600 is pretty much the same story as the F2.  I'd like to see them grandfather both bikes into Lightweight.  Understand that I have no intentions of going racing again, so I have so stake in this discussion.  My observations are purely from the time I spent as a Lightweight competitor, combined with my desire to see at least one place in motorcycle roadracing where a beginner could buy a $500-$1000 bike and jump in without being guaranteed last place.  Then as the guy gets better, he can work to upgrade the machine and be more competitive.  This is the path I took, first with an EX500, then an FZR400, which became a 560.  I literally improved my machine $100 or less at a time.  I'd just like to see an avenue like that available to bucks-down potential racers these days.

Again, this is merely my opinion.