NESBA trackday riders place well at CCS / ASRA Road America Races

[PJ721]

seems to me NESBA should be concerned that their track day riders have gone over to the dark side and have become racers...cuz that's what they are once they have that license in hand....racers that do track days. Before you know it...they'll do less track days and more races   THE HORROR OF IT ALL!!!!   

[Headdog122]

NESBA is "Not for Profit" right..??

I am not trying to kick any crap here, but I am curious how much of my $185-195 per trackday is donated to RW Action Fund or Red Flag Fund.

I can honestly say, if $25-$45 or more is donated from the aforementioned "Not for Profit" organization, I'll see you at your next event.  And I could convince some of my buddies to go, otherwise show me where the $$ goes.  I don't want to hear about track rental fees, insurance, yada, yada...  I'm talking a predetermined "Profit Margin" that must be put back into the organization.

Sorry...  My curiousity is arroused..!!   

The prices just seem to keep going up... 

[tstruyk]

I know of two riders who did this.

which 2?  what races?  I'd really like to congratulate them.  Thats impressive to say the least.  Are they planning on moving up to expert this year?  Or chasing AM championships?

Your original comments seemed condensending to me, and here as well, as whitnessed by using the term "sack up"

it doesnt take a lil sack to race???  I was under the impression that a contingent of track day riders hesitate to race for one of 2 reasons.

1.  funds
2.  they consider themselves "not ready"

I could be wrong, just going by converstions I've heard/read.

My original comments where only interpreted that way because I ignored your chest thumping.  Yes its cool so many riders in your organization are doing well.  good for them.  but not unheard of.  

They are not my results.   And from prior post from some "racers"  that trackday riders don't have it them, blah, blah, blah.  Don't have the skill of racers...blah blah blah   and can't handle the close passing in racing blah blah blah - I find THIS astonishing.

I dont think people take issue with the dozen racers or CR's or whatever you choose to call them today that CAN negotiate a track in a reasonable manner, safely... its the ones that cant that concerns them.  Its dizzying logic I know.

Oh please, Cry me a river dude.  No one has given me anything .  Please let me know what I have gotten for free.  You are preaching to the choir

I never said you recieved anything for free... I simply said I fund my own racing.  You tried to make it personal.  I responed with a personal reason for me not being there to race.  As for results, well it would have been nice to find out, but I didnt have the opportunity.  

But since you so adamently deny recieving anything, are you saying that nesba doesnt purchase items for its directors?  trailers?  tires? parts? vehicles?  Nothing????

[G 97]

 

which 2?  what races?  I'd really like to congratulate them.  Thats impressive to say the least.  Are they planning on moving up to expert this year?  Or chasing AM championships?
 

it doesnt take a lil sack to race???  I was under the impression that a contingent of track day riders hesitate to race for one of 2 reasons.

1.  funds
2.  they consider themselves "not ready"

I could be wrong, just going by converstions I've heard/read.

My original comments where only interpreted that way because I ignored your chest thumping.  Yes its cool so many riders in your organization are doing well.  good for them.  but not unheard of.  


I dont think people take issue with the dozen racers or CR's or whatever you choose to call them today that CAN negotiate a track in a reasonable manner, safely... its the ones that cant that concerns them.  Its dizzying logic I know.

I never said you recieved anything for free... I simply said I fund my own racing.  You tried to make it personal.  I responed with a personal reason for me not being there to race.  As for results, well it would have been nice to find out, but I didnt have the opportunity.  

But since you so adamently deny recieving anything, are you saying that nesba doesnt purchase items for its directors?  trailers?  tires? parts? vehicles?  Nothing????

You are the expert. 

Dude, it's clear to me that you have prior issues with myself and or NESBA.  I have no idea who you are and I have no recollection of ever meeting you.  If there is some perceived injustice that you now find it necessary to repeatedly pile on with subjects pertaining with NESBA please let me know so I can at least try and make an attempt to resolve it.   Otherwise you are simply wasting my time.  Please don't give me that crap about making it personal.  You crossed that line along time ago.

Once again, I have never had anything just given to me.  I FUND MY OWN RACING.  I also race. 

[RCR_531]

I will give you that Dustin and Ron ran some great races.  It was even great to be able to talk with them and not have to worry about them being big headed. I hope Ron keeps coming and makes Dustin work alittle for the wins. Ron's write up was great too no ego trip just an awesome write up.

It was also nice of Melisa (sorry for the spelling)to setup and help out Trackday Mag with their rider problem.

[Jeff]

NESBA is "Not for Profit" right..??

I am not trying to kick any crap here, but I am curious how much of my $185-195 per trackday is donated to RW Action Fund or Red Flag Fund.

Any non-profit charity (501 (c)(3)) has to disclose their records to the public.  Check with the IRS and/or Nesba's annual report to see where their money goes.

It does not necessarily have to go to any other non-profit organization, let alone the 2 you mention.  Afterall, at the Red Flag Fund, we don't provide NESBA any money, nor can we assist (at this time) any of their members if they go down on a track day.

[racrx451]

I know Dustin Boyd almost won the overall in either unl. ss or sbk.  he was turning 2:25-26's as a first year racer.  he's my hero.... ron hix also had his first race weekend & did very very well.  I attribute that to many laps with nesba.. hey garth.... need anymore cr's in the midwest????? 

[RCR_531]

It is nice to see Boyd do well at all tracks.

[tstruyk]

the expert?  no, just somewhat educated.

If there is some perceived injustice that you now find it necessary to repeatedly pile on with subjects pertaining with NESBA please let me know so I can at least try and make an attempt to resolve it.

No percieved injustice.  just a director that makes comments that I question.  I have never said nesba is a bad company.  I have never refered to the way they choose to run the business in a negative way.  I have only ever taken issue with the spin that gets thrown on it.  If you recall, I have actually commended nesba on its business decisions and success.  nesba has done a good job.


this thread was nothing more than you throwing rocks at those that questioned the ability of track day riders in a racing environment.  Did you really not think it would start a discussion?

I crossed the line?  I dont recall ever making a personal comment regarding you.  its never been about you.

I know Dustin Boyd almost won the overall in either unl. ss or sbk.  he was turning 2:25-26's as a first year racer.  he's my hero.... ron hix also had his first race weekend & did very very well.  I attribute that to many laps with nesba.

thanks racrx451.  Congrats to DB.  25's and 26's is awefully fast.

[tstruyk]

It is nice to see Boyd do well at all tracks.

yeah he had a good weekend at GIR too as I recall

[racrx451]

yeah... at GIR, he dipped into the .09's.... eeeeeeeekkkkkkkkk!!!!! just wish I could hang with him.  I can out eat him though! 

[Tojo]

I do track stuff to offset my talk-radio listening.

I enjoy the sport and find it an escape from the BS of real life. Guys, you are getting dangerously close to pissing off people that use this sport to (as I do) to escape politics. Will everyone here please shut-up and check your ego's.

I ride NESBA, STT, PTT (no CCS yet). Any group that promotes getting in, getting involved, getting better, getting faster is a good group.

Stop stepping on your own genitalia or the silent majority will see this BS and step away from the sport. Very stupid