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am125ike

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Re: 4&6RACING ROBBERS
« Reply #48 on: June 17, 2002, 01:25:35 pm »
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steve, you have 1st hand knowlege of how they took care of YOU....not me...
and if you didnt talk to jim, how do you know that i didnt talk to him???
you won in 99' ??? i guess you were in the hunt in 97' and 98' and of course 2000 and 01'  to go along with 02'
and for the record,steve, im not ashamed to be a fan of everyone that has a bike, in fact im a big fan of people who get to work on bikes for a living, like your friend jim, yep, a fan, but that does not mean that im going to be happy to be stiffed......simple.... .
and when you talk to your friend jim, the one who takes care of costumers,...
you should ask him, as a friend, just between you and him, it's dead and gone for me at this point (this is just conversation between us now), ask him, since he is actualy the one who said it was cracked when he "went to clamp on the lead", why did he break it, or how, but most importantly, i'd like for him to tell you how he was considering himself taking care of me by giving me my bike back with absolutely no mention of resolution, with absolutely no mention of it eve being broken??? i told them due to my work hours, i'd have someone else pick it up, and they didnt tell my team owner when he ,picked it up, in fact, my team owner tried to talk to them about the windscreen, he thought they should pay the whole thing, they ran him out of there (cuz i was gonna get my brother to pick it up, they didnt know it was my team owner) told him it wasnt even his bike" why should i talk to you? this is ike's bike"....
steve,  is this the guy you're speaking up for?? in fact, tell me your opinion, why would he not even mention the rearset being broken??? and then come online and say " people aint man enough to admit when they're wrong" (thats seriously comical) (im in this, me and 4&6, we two know what happened, and now unattached people know)
............and is that what you consider being a full fledged man? (not like me) to break a bike, not mention it, and then to say "IT WAS ALREADY BROKEN"???
ok, so shawn told me that, but it's clear to have been rehearsed(albiet poorly) cuz jim comes on here and attacks me, but let's me in on the fact that it broke in his very hands, he owns the business, and he takes care of costumers, but leaves me to do what ??? feel stupid and used, im a sucker!!!  thats simple for me to see, but you, .....you're partial......but your friend broke my bike, (which, by the way, you havent seen, so you can be called a name or two for commenting on something that you dont have all the facts on, ask jim :)
you dont know the condition of my bike steve, do you ???
  you talk about the way i handled this, but no fault on your friends part, heh?
i do welcome your comments, but i wondered why so partial, and as an imperfect human, i will not always conduct myself in a proper manner, your buddies are not perfect either, and they will not satisfy all their customers,but the just plain ole' dik'd me....flat out..... they got me, and rearsets are not as expensive as the time ive taken up from all of these readers, but they left me needing someone to talk to......so i brought it to my (new) people, the racers.... who will forgive me for carrying this sssoooooooo far......but you, i just wonder what you have to gain, i was the one screwed......why you tryin get some, you gone kick my a$$ cuz i didnt take the rape without screamin or something ???
:-X

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and you cant brag about being faster than me, im too new  :P
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Steve Karson

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Re: 4&6RACING ROBBERS
« Reply #49 on: June 17, 2002, 02:07:18 pm »
Not sure where alot of that came from but...

1) I never said anything about asskicking.

2) you talk about the way i handled this, but no fault on your friends part, heh?

  I never said Jim was right or wrong just that
  YOU NEVER TALKED TO HIM OR GAVE HIM A CHANCE TO DO RIGHT BY YOU./b]  You talked to someone that worked for him NOT HIM. then you went on the bbs and attacked him. As you said, nobody is perfect and we all make mistakes ( I know I've made more than my share) but by not talking to the owner of the business ( any business) you never gave him, the owner, a chance. Again the only knowledge I have of this is from this thread, I have nothing to gain from this. I am not defending or attacking Jim's position I am only talking about tha fact that you did not talk to the owner, that's all.



3) We were not in the hunt in '98, or 2000.

4) I never questioned your riding ability and never would, it has nothing to do with how you handled the situation.

5)steve, maybe i can learn something here, ...........can you tell me what i should say next ?

How about... "Can I talk to the owner?"
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Steve Karson

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Re: 4&6RACING ROBBERS
« Reply #50 on: June 17, 2002, 02:17:51 pm »
and if you didnt talk to jim, how do you know that i didnt talk to him.


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am125ike

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Re: 4&6RACING ROBBERS
« Reply #51 on: June 17, 2002, 02:47:13 pm »
 

  I never said Jim was right or wrong just that
  YOU NEVER TALKED TO HIM OR GAVE HIM A CHANCE TO DO RIGHT BY YOU.  


5)steve, maybe i can learn something here, ...........can you tell me what i should say next ?

How about... "Can I talk to the owner?"[/quote]

the only problem with that (to me, steve) is, the owner, jim, is the one who broke it
::)

and the only problem that i have with you pointing out my fault, is that you are not commenting on both sides of "fault" .....like you said, you never said jim was wrong or right, i never gave him a chance.............. i disagree cuz he had a chance to do right by me at the very moment that he broke a part off of my bike, he (actualy broke two) didnt mention one....
ive been there, and at that moment you have to decide, im sure you and everyone else knows the moment im talking about,  it's like......
"oh sh...!!" i broke this fuk'g guy's whatever"....................
jim was (obviously) like.....fukit......im not going to be the one who takes the blame for this ..&%*&#+*$~%#>&**.............
he could've been like.............oh crap, now i gotta get this guy another......
but he didnt, he chose to cover it up,....... steve? it broke in jim's hands???
wutts realy up with that????????
tho, i get your point, your buddy slaped me in the face (it was broken already),
and i was ready to fight, but i went public, however, he blacked his own eye when he tried to slap me around on this forum, made himself my advocate.......
i dont doubt that he's been good to alot of customers, but me, he screwed, and then dared me to retaliate, yeah jim had a chance to get me strait, but he didnt do it, and im not going to beg him to make up to me, and to let you know, i met jim when i drop'd off my bike, and i did not feel welcome there, and from my experiences, as soon as i ask shawn to let me speak to the owner, the owner ask's him what it's about, and when the "specialty shop" owner hears from his own guy, that this new guy on the phone is complaining
about "the broken rearset", and we're already going half on a new windscreen for him (and remember jim's writing ...."idiot, stupidity")   my complaint is going nowhere, they already decided to say that it didnt happen there ??? com' on  :-/

sorry dawn...
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Gixxer124

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Re: 4&6RACING ROBBERS
« Reply #52 on: June 17, 2002, 02:50:48 pm »
Pete and his brother Re-Pete were in a boat, Pete fell in. Who was left in the boat?
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TZDeSioux

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Re: 4&6RACING ROBBERS
« Reply #53 on: June 17, 2002, 02:59:14 pm »
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Pete and his brother Re-Pete were in a boat, Pete fell in. Who was left in the boat?


uh.... Re-Pete?  8)
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Steve Karson

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Re: 4&6RACING ROBBERS
« Reply #54 on: June 17, 2002, 03:01:06 pm »
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Pete and his brother Re-Pete were in a boat, Pete fell in. Who was left in the boat?



Well said, I'm done.
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Gixxer124

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Re: 4&6RACING ROBBERS
« Reply #55 on: June 17, 2002, 03:30:12 pm »
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uh.... Re-Pete?  8)



Exactly!!
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am125ike

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Re: 4&6RACING ROBBERS
« Reply #56 on: June 17, 2002, 03:31:31 pm »
wait, now, you wrote "pete fell "in"
???
sooo.... technicaly pete and re-pete are still hangin out....... ;D

or in.......

ok, ok, so im not funny,....but effort counts.......
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FoodCrewMARRC

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Re: 4&6RACING ROBBERS
« Reply #57 on: June 18, 2002, 06:46:25 am »
Just make sure if you two ever meet at Summit let me know so I can hide the knives and metal cooking utensils..

;D
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am125ike

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Re: 4&6RACING ROBBERS
« Reply #58 on: June 18, 2002, 08:41:17 am »
naaaaah.......

we'll be best of freinds, he's got a bike (or two) and he's fast........
those type's of guys are the best (to me)........
im a fan first.......


  ike     ;D
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schpreck

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Re: 4&6RACING ROBBERS
« Reply #59 on: June 18, 2002, 04:05:49 pm »
Doesn't anyone write R.O.s anymore?  If something's broken on the bike, it should be noted on the R.O.  I didn't want to get in the middle here, and I'm not taking sides, but as a mechanic, I've got to wonder why the damage wasn't noted on the R.O.  If I worked on a vehicle at my shop without noting damage that the customer said I caused, the shop would be liable.  I also keep a Polaroid in my tool box.  Most of the time, I go over the vehicle with the customer there, that way misunderstandings like this are avoided.
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