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It's time to suck it up and buy our own transponders in 2012

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Re: It's time to suck it up and buy our own transponders in 2012
« Reply #48 on: July 10, 2011, 12:02:51 pm »
I would if I could use it in wera also.
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Re: It's time to suck it up and buy our own transponders in 2012
« Reply #49 on: July 11, 2011, 07:01:36 pm »
Am I missing something? Is the current system about to fail?  Will CCS need to make a large investment to keep the current system up?  There's some 375 racers in the Atlantic region... is it reasonable to say that across the US, some 700 CCS racers would need to purchase transponders?.  As a whole, do we NEED to make a $300k investment into this?  Doesn't seem like everyone has a big fat racing budgets lately...

I'm definitely one who started racing CCS over WERA as a transponder tipped the scales.  If I had one, I would consider doing WERA races that fit better in my schedule then out of conference CCS races that were tough to make. 

Its not that I'm being cheap, it just seems like the wrong time with the economy.  I know 2 CCS racers who are cutting out race weekends due to budget.
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Re: It's time to suck it up and buy our own transponders in 2012
« Reply #50 on: July 14, 2011, 04:56:35 pm »
Am I missing something? Is the current system about to fail?  Will CCS need to make a large investment to keep the current system up?  There's some 375 racers in the Atlantic region... is it reasonable to say that across the US, some 700 CCS racers would need to purchase transponders?.  As a whole, do we NEED to make a $300k investment into this?  Doesn't seem like everyone has a big fat racing budgets lately...

I'm definitely one who started racing CCS over WERA as a transponder tipped the scales.  If I had one, I would consider doing WERA races that fit better in my schedule then out of conference CCS races that were tough to make. 

Its not that I'm being cheap, it just seems like the wrong time with the economy.  I know 2 CCS racers who are cutting out race weekends due to budget.
Yep, you missed the thread from before the start of this season.  The transponders are getting to the end of their life cycle, and if I remember correctly they are leased and the lease is about up.  So either CCS shells out lots of money it doesn't have to update the current system or they go the AMB route where we would all have to buy (or rent) our own transponders.  In the end it truly becomes a wash unless you only run a race or two and hang up your helmet.
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Re: It's time to suck it up and buy our own transponders in 2012
« Reply #51 on: July 18, 2011, 08:34:52 pm »
I did miss that, kinda sheds a new light on the argument
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Re: It's time to suck it up and buy our own transponders in 2012
« Reply #52 on: July 20, 2011, 09:07:51 am »
I agree with what Eric Kelcher said in another thread:
 
"There are some transponders/transmitters in pipeline that use existing track loops that have lower cost than AMB. With the life of both the original Westhold transmitters and AMB transponders reaching their end of useful life I would wait on word from Kevin before rushing out to purchase a personal unit."
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Re: It's time to suck it up and buy our own transponders in 2012
« Reply #53 on: July 20, 2011, 02:39:16 pm »
I agree with what Eric Kelcher said in another thread:
 
"There are some transponders/transmitters in pipeline that use existing track loops that have lower cost than AMB. With the life of both the original Westhold transmitters and AMB transponders reaching their end of useful life I would wait on word from Kevin before rushing out to purchase a personal unit."
Good to hear options are in the pipeline.
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Re: It's time to suck it up and buy our own transponders in 2012
« Reply #54 on: December 09, 2011, 02:56:10 pm »
The latest CCS Newsletter says...

After much debate, the Fort Worth office has decided to go with the
new Westhold “Activated” personal transponders for 2012. This will
require all riders who participate in events promoted out of the Fort
Worth Office and CCS Florida to purchase their own Westhold personal
transponder or rent a unit for the event.

So does this mean just people in Florida and Texas?
« Last Edit: December 09, 2011, 03:03:13 pm by gixxer188 »
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Re: It's time to suck it up and buy our own transponders in 2012
« Reply #55 on: December 09, 2011, 07:32:20 pm »
I took it to mean that the new transponders will be used for the races where you send your entry into CCS ....  not the affiliates like Loudon and the SW Region.  The exception on the affiliate is the Florida Region. 

So that would mean the new transponders will be used in the Midwest, Atlantic, Mid Atlantic, Southeast and Daytona.
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Re: It's time to suck it up and buy our own transponders in 2012
« Reply #56 on: December 09, 2011, 09:58:50 pm »
http://www.westhold.com/products_timing.html 

  Activated (Blue) - A cost effective unit meant for motorcycles, karts and quarter midgets. No charging necessary. Permanent internal battery (battery life 3 years depending on usage. Non-use shelf life up to 9 years). ($80 retail)*

* Prices only for transponder. Does not included charger or holders. Please contact us for quantity (10 pieces or more) pricing and package pricing. (Click here to request pricing information)
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Re: It's time to suck it up and buy our own transponders in 2012
« Reply #57 on: December 09, 2011, 11:11:02 pm »
You can find the price breakdown here
http://www.westhold.com/docs/docstemp.html
http://www.westhold.com/docs/PriceList.pdf

Quantity Price
1-9 $80.00
10-49 $75.00
50-99 $65.00
100+ $60.00
Activator** $350.00

If anyone wants to get a group buy going I'm in.
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Re: It's time to suck it up and buy our own transponders in 2012
« Reply #58 on: December 09, 2011, 11:26:31 pm »
Maybe I'm alone on this... but the way that I read the Click Here for your advanced copy of the License Renewal Mailer, I don't think that me in the MidWest will need to buy a Transponder. Well scat, I don't know... I'd like to hear an official word on this before I go & buy one... as it seems to be up to speculation at this point.
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Re: It's time to suck it up and buy our own transponders in 2012
« Reply #59 on: December 10, 2011, 12:53:55 am »
Maybe I'm alone on this... but the way that I read the Click Here for your advanced copy of the License Renewal Mailer, I don't think that me in the MidWest will need to buy a Transponder. Well scat, I don't know... I'd like to hear an official word on this before I go & buy one... as it seems to be up to speculation at this point.
No, you don't need to buy a transponder.  But, if you don't you will have to rent one for $25 per race weekend.  The key here is that the races in the Midwest Region are promoted out of the Ft Worth office, i.e., that's where you send your entries to.
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