Whats up with Formula 40 next year?

[dylanfan53]

Thanks Anthony. Closest I can come to that is the Bass Ale in front of me.  I promise to switch to Guinness at the next beer run.  As I recall the Guinness always comes out on top in a Black and Tan anyway!

Hey Tom. Another fellow moody Scorpio but the ladies love us don't they!  ;)

BTW, H.  The fun in LW40 is seeing how many larger displacement F40's you can pick off from the first wave in a sprint race.    

[H-man]

BTW, H.  The fun in LW40 is seeing how many larger displacement F40's you can pick off from the first wave in a sprint race.

I'm a-ways from that level of fun :( :-[

But it'll be something to shoot for, eh? ;) :D

[Super Dave]

Hey Tom. Another fellow moody Scorpio but the ladies love us don't they!  ;)
 

The wife and I are in the Scorpio clan...

Few more days and a few more years closer to F40...

How many F40 classes do we need?

Yeah, it's gonna be more like the Senior PGA.  The demographic for club racing continues to get older.  Isn't it still gonna be racing regardless?  If the pace needs to be "slower", then aren't track days a better answer?  

Guys think that vintage racing is slower...but it isn't.

[H-man]

I must not be expressing myself very well.  SD, I did not suggest, nor am I advocating a slowing of the pace.  What I am noting is, regardless of skill, a big speed differential can lead to unfortunate incidents.

F40LW has 250s, SVs, Buells ::) and F2s.  Do you truly believe placing an unlimited class on the track at the same time under race conditions to be prudent?

As for track days being a better answer.  Well, I suppose it depends on the question.  Track days aren't supposed to be competitive.  I was looking to try my hand at a different sport and live a dream.

Maybe what I should be taking from your comments is that "racing" is only for those who not only can ride a consistent line safely but must do so at a particular pace.

Just post those suggested times and us slow guys will stay down in the minors until we can improve (dispite past posts that have encouranged myself and others with "just do it" and "you get faster by racing with faster riders") and, if we still have the desire, return to race another time.

Screw it.  Maybe I'm just cranky.  I'm going to bed.

[Baltobuell]

 Happy birthday Dylanfan! With a handle like that I knew you had to somewhere close to my age. And why are'nt you riding a Harley product you ol'fart. Don't you realize at a certain point you can say, Yeah I'm slow and I'm in your way, Tuff, I got the holeshot and I'm wide.

[Super Dave]

H-man...

LOL, why are we up....

I think the ULF40 thing is kind of ridiculous, really.

How many fragments do we need?  

ULSS as it is doesn't have many entrants on 1000's....so, why make even more classes.  

I'm with you that putting all those together wouldn't be a good idea.

Track day reference...

(I'm tired...so, don't take me at complete value)

Racing still is racing.  We've got amateur and expert and various categories to seperate.  That's good.  

But often it seems that some want to make five hundred categories to seperate every conclusion so all can win a race or a championship at some point.  Every year I hear it.  I can only imagine what Kevin Elliott has to listen to...

I think LWF40 was good.  I like regular F40.  Beyond that...well, if those people really want to race in those classes, buy a bike that is appropriate for the class.

[quicktoy]

The only reason I brought up this post was because a heavyweight formula 40 is more like a GSXR 750 formula 40

[laohu69]

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My fun is seeing how many of the LW40 I can stay ahead of on my 600 since I rarely chase down any of the 750's.  :)

[H-man]

ALL RIGHT! 8)  Nothing like some sleep or meditation to make one right ;)  I don't know why I (still to this day) fight going to bed ??? :-/

Thanks for your last post SD.

  H-man

[K3 Chris Onwiler]

Maybe what I should be taking from your comments is that "racing" is only for those who not only can ride a consistent line safely but must do so at a particular pace.

Just post those suggested times and us slow guys will stay down in the minors until we can improve (dispite past posts that have encouranged myself and others with "just do it" and "you get faster by racing with faster riders") and, if we still have the desire, return to race another time.

H?  Don't make me drive to Michigan and b!@$#slap your sorry @$$.  You come racing or I'll drag you there!  If I can get out there on my old SRAD with no real hope of winning in the damn expert class, you've got nothing to snivel about as an amateur!
Although there are some really serious guys at the head of the F40 packs, this class has some outstanding camaradre to it.  Just making it to the grid is as good as a win when you get as old as we are! ;D

[xseal]

I don't know, here in the mid-atlantic (novice anyway), Frank Gilles won using a 3 year old CBR 600 with some hard miles on it, and he and I were often dicing it near the front on my 3 yr old Kawasaki 600.  At most tracks, I didn't see that the GSXR750 guys had a big advantage.

I do have to admit, moving up to expert I'm looking much harder at a new 750, but my hunch is a new 600 or 636 would be nearly as good. Maybe in 06.

I think the class is pretty good as is. The fast guys are really fast (Lombardi, Ribardi) and can race with the best club racers in the country.  That's something to aspire to and the 20 hp b/t a 750 and 600 doesn't change that much.

[H-man]

I like you Chris.  You're a funny guy.  [I'll leave off Arnold's next line 'cause I do like ya ;D]

Super D and I have done the Chris/Don thing.  Matter of fact, make mine a Guiness or any dark ale Dave.  Pete's Wicked Ale would be just great. ;) ;D

You got me wrong Chris.  Unlike Sunny [relax Sunny8)  I'm not snapping on ya.  We both know you're a better rider than me] it's me that needs to be better, not the bike.  My '94 F2 is capable of a hell of a lot more than I've wrung out of it.

But thanks for the support - in typical K3 fashion  ;) ;D

  H-man