Team "Pro"Motion?

[EmerWil]

Dafan,

 I have to wonder at this point what your true intentions are.  You slam chris for taking this complaint to a public board but you have no obvious problem with posting snippets from his emails to managment at TPM.  

You make some allegation about Chris making threats but I don't see that in any of the emails that he posted.  I would be very careful in how you embelish "your account" of what is going on.

Your interpretations of his emails (which you were not privy to until you decided to "check into it") are a little off base.  

This all could have been resolved with a simple apology on the part of TPM but they opted not go that route.

Chris if I were you I'd tear that check up. I don't think I'd want their money.

[castle228]

K3 Chris, I would like to thank you for your posts. You are hitting the nail on the head. I sometimes have a hard time getting my exact point across but you have made up where I lack.


Note to Dafan: After re-reading some of your recent posts, you are making accusations that are untrue such as threatening "to damage our reputation". Again, I want you to point out a quote from any of my e-mails where I said anything along these lines.

Also, where did I say that I DON'T believe airfences are valuable? I made a comment that I didn't think TPM treated cornerworkers as an "investement".

Dafan, you are seeing SERIOUS SERIOUS shades of brown. I strongly urge you to get your head out before you suffocate.

[G 97]

I can relate several instances at Summit Point where we have had to call on our net for an ambulance for a crash on the Jefferson that the NESBA corner worker either didn't see or didn't know how to respond to.

I have personally WATCHED at Turn 3, a worker for NESBA on the Jefferson have a bike go down, walk onto the track with his flag, with bikes moving at race speed, to cross the track and check on the rider.

I would like to modify my statement regarding NESBA workers to specifically address workers that I have personally seen on the Jefferson Circuit at Summit Point.

So two instances involving one track encompasses the entire NESBA organization as to the quality of CW NESBA utilizes.  NESBA goes to over 21 different race tracks, and runs close to 90 events from coast to coast and for the overwhelming majority of these events NESBA employs the exact same CW's as all of the other track organizations.  You know you kind of did a slight disservice towards the entire CW's that NESBA does use.  I fail to see how two instances, although critical, can justify or warrant your comments.  

I will go on to say that I can think of specific examples involving instances where certain situations could have been handled differently by the CW's in all levels of racing from Moto GP to club.  Most recently at the Brainerd AMA SB race at T10.  Would I base the entire quality of the CRA organization from this one indiscretion?   No, as this would not be an accurate assessment as a whole.

In short I will defend the quality of CW's that NESBA utilizes as I have worked with all of them at 17 different tracks, at well over 100 events over a period of five years.  I would ask that you be objective in your assertions.  That is all.

Also thanks for being a dedicated CW you are greatly appreciated  :)

[Eric Kelcher]

Dafan I am sorry I did not follow up more but you had said you would contact us about deployment, as the person responsible for that I indictated I would be point of contact, I guess I should have PM'd you with my telephgone numbers(I thought I did but don't see evidence I did in my outbox PMs).

Moot point though past history and we will work to make things better in the future.

[Dawn]

Alright everyone....

.... I think we have heard enough based on feedback that I have recieved.  If this conversation needs to continue, please take it off line.

Thanks!

Dawn   ;)

[r6_philly]

Dafan I am sorry I did not follow up more but you had said you would contact us about deployment, as the person responsible for that I indictated I would be point of contact, I guess I should have PM'd you with my telephgone numbers(I thought I did but don't see evidence I did in my outbox PMs).

Moot point though past history and we will work to make things better in the future.

eric, it wasnt been you and me to set up the airfence, it was between CCS/FUSA and TPM. it was the first time, if they get the arrangement we wouldn't have any hiccups next time.

[r6_philly]

K3 Chris, I would like to thank you for your posts. You are hitting the nail on the head. I sometimes have a hard time getting my exact point across but you have made up where I lack.


Note to Dafan: After re-reading some of your recent posts, you are making accusations that are untrue such as threatening "to damage our reputation". Again, I want you to point out a quote from any of my e-mails where I said anything along these lines.

Also, where did I say that I DON'T believe airfences are valuable? I made a comment that I didn't think TPM treated cornerworkers as an "investement".

Dafan, you are seeing SERIOUS SERIOUS shades of brown. I strongly urge you to get your head out before you suffocate.

sorry about the threat thing. I was told, so it was hearsay. I don't know what else was said between you, I was just informed. so I apologize, it was not right to say unless I can back it up.

again I am not on behalf of TPM here, I didn't think your complains were founded because I would have not had the same complains if I were you.

ok? I stand by me, if you have to wonder what my intentions are then wonder. I guess it would have been easier to see if I wasn't affiliated with TPM in anyway.

at which time I would still have the same opinions as I do now.

I would like to add that I was not a part of responding to you in anyway by TPM, thats how they choose to deal with this issue.

I would not have complained. If I didn't like it in the morning, I would have went home. If I didn't like how the day went, I would have just simply finish the day and not come back.

I have nothing else to say regarding the TPM vs Chris thing.

but regard to questions to my person and my personal intentions, I am not going to stand by that.

[r6_philly]

K3 Chris, I would like to thank you for your posts. You are hitting the nail on the head. I sometimes have a hard time getting my exact point across but you have made up where I lack.


Note to Dafan: After re-reading some of your recent posts, you are making accusations that are untrue such as threatening "to damage our reputation". Again, I want you to point out a quote from any of my e-mails where I said anything along these lines.

Also, where did I say that I DON'T believe airfences are valuable? I made a comment that I didn't think TPM treated cornerworkers as an "investement".

Dafan, you are seeing SERIOUS SERIOUS shades of brown. I strongly urge you to get your head out before you suffocate.

don't make any assumptions on me, you said things, I said what I feel, don't point it at me personally. if you don't want people to have an opinion about it, don't post it.

[Dawn]

Wow.....

Just reading the last few posts (I haven't had time to go through the whole thread) it seems like there were some misunderstandings and some disappointments on how things were handled.

Let's put it to bed boys.....

Dawn   ;)

[Jeff]

ROFLMFAO...

Wow..... This is a good one!  I didn't know what I was missing until I actually sat & read the thread.  

The email thread says it all...

When a company dismisses someone trying to better/help them, the company suffers...

[r6_philly]

sounds like CCS/FUSA, so why are we all still here?

[Baltobuell]

 In an attempt to turn things a little more positive. I've ridden with Nesba, TPM, Marrc TNT days and Reduc. As a particapant I always had a good time with any of them, but generally I tend to keep to myself and learn the track or figure out why I'm slow. All of them seemed to run an organized program, but apparently there are different things going on I know nothing about. If any cornerworkers would care to give a thumbs up to any group for running a safe, professional program. That might be useful.