Team "Pro"Motion?

[r6_philly]

Hate to jump on the bandwagon but I have left this to simmer since the FUSA/CCS race weekend.

Team Pro Motion came on here and said they would provide the air fence to CCS at no charge and I had said great bring it and left contact info so we could arrange deployment and timing issues never heard another word. Roger Lyle told me he had left word (email I believe) for them also. They did not show for the weekend and when I asked the track if they knew anything about it we were able to contact someone with TPM and they were at VIR doing a track day. Kinda makes you wonder how they could have offered when they knew they would be out of town?

I would like to thank all the racers/spectators/cornerworkers that jumped in to help deploy the CCS airfence for the weekend.

yes Eric, lets talk about that. We send the press release to CCS/FUSA regarding the airfence. It was published on RRW as well.

Well CCS/FUSA did not call us to arrange to use the airfence until Thurs. morning of the event, while you are already down at Summit point.

do you rent the track when you get to summit or do you arrange for usage of the track before hand???

And how did you, or kevin though that we "made arrangement" before hand, I will never know. I never got in touch with you, or Kevin, and why was I mentioned as "said will set it up" I will never know.

its always easy to blame someone else right? I let it simmer too because I figure CCS/FUSA didn't need to use the airfence.

Again, I got a call on thur. of the event that CCS/FUSA needed to use the airfence. Thank you for the planning guys. and yes I was available.

[r6_philly]

yes, I see you all are a bunch of sensible people here. some hearsay about a different org and everyone jumps on the bandwagon and say "oh they are bad"

we complain about CCS and we were "crybabies and whiners"?

 ::)

[r6_philly]

Sorry to hear it.  Totally ridicoulous and outraged.................   >:(  I would have quit corner working no later than when you found out that you need to cover your own lunch and continue to be treated as "they are doing you a favor to let you work".............

I would like you to find me a few jobs that pays for your lunch after they paid for your salary???

how much does AMA pay their corner workers?? nothing

how much does CCS pay their corner workers?? someone enlighten me

[r6_philly]

by the way, on Sat one rider crashed and later was found that he broke 4 or 5 bones.

guess what? the safety crew MADE HIM WALK TO THE AMBULANCE. No I am not making it up, I was there picking up his bike.

[r6_philly]

Chris, I'm so sorry to hear about your experience with TPM, but I must say, I'm not surprised.  One of our friends asked me to do the TPM day with him, and I said I'd never do a TPM day.  I have little respect for the owner, and have found their days to be less than enjoyable.  Then our friend calls us and tells us about the oil spill.  He was furious.

What I want to know is how the owner of a track day organization is so irresponsible to let that happen to his own bike (my apologies if it was for some other reason than his own ignorance, but I heard it was his fault)...

I, for one, want to thank you for always being at events and cornerworking.  You do a great job and take your job very seriously, and us racers and family/friends of racers thank you!  

yes, you never made a mistake in your riding days.

he made a public apology on the website, he bought extra track time so no one lost any tracktime, and had anyone crashed in the oil (no one did luckily) he would have fixed the bike for that person for free.

we wouldn't have lost so much track time if the 3 cornerworkers didn't leave the post when the cleaning up was going on.

We stood around looking like idiots trying to figure out where they went.

[ekraft84]

If anyone comes publically to complain about something like this, there's probably a valid point.  You may want to look into it ..  Sounds like people have some valid complaints.  

FWIW, I have no experience with your days.  I turned away at the $165 price tag for a trackday; at Nelson no less.   :(

BTW, cornerworkers should be treated like royalty.

[EmerWil]

Hate to jump on the bandwagon but I have left this to simmer since the FUSA/CCS race weekend.

Team Pro Motion came on here and said they would provide the air fence to CCS at no charge and I had said great bring it and left contact info so we could arrange deployment and timing issues never heard another word. Roger Lyle told me he had left word (email I believe) for them also. They did not show for the weekend and when I asked the track if they knew anything about it we were able to contact someone with TPM and they were at VIR doing a track day. Kinda makes you wonder how they could have offered when they knew they would be out of town?

I would like to thank all the racers/spectators/cornerworkers that jumped in to help deploy the CCS airfence for the weekend.

And their web site STILL says that they'll provide air fence to ANY and ALL sanctioning bodies that request it **AT NO CHARGE**.

[EmerWil]

Dafan,

 you are an employee of TPM so I would expect nothing less than you to totally defend them.

Bottom line is that if you don't take care of the corner workers you'll have nothing better than the people that NESBA has. Without corner workers, as you said, you won't be able to ride.

Let's see how many corner workers you have for your next track day at Summit.

Your attempts at defending TPM did nothing short of confirming the bad attitude and lack of professionalism at TPM.

This is a public board.  Last time I checked this was still a country where people could speak their minds about bad experiences.  I don't think that's "immature" as you put it and judging from the other negative comments about TPM it's well founded.

So I'm sure you'll have a defense and counter story for each bad point brought to light about TPM but again the bottom line is still this; TREAT YOUR WORKERS RIGHT OR YOU'LL BE STANDING AROUND WONDERING WHY THERE AREN'T BIKES ON COURSE.

[EmerWil]

by the way, on Sat one rider crashed and later was found that he broke 4 or 5 bones.

guess what? the safety crew MADE HIM WALK TO THE AMBULANCE. No I am not making it up, I was there picking up his bike.

Was later found to have 4 or 5 broken bones?  Was he transported by the ambulance?  Just out of curiousity what turn was this in?  

Don't just throw out part of the story and then turn around and accuse other people of only telling half the story in another post.

[Eric Kelcher]

R6  went and checked it was you that came here and posted the info about the air fence being available from TPM I responded to that thread and never recieved any response, and last word was "I will update when I find out"
 
http://www.racemotorcycles.com/cgi-bin/board/YaBB.pl?board=ccs1;action=display;num=1084401539

And how can you say you were availabe when TPM was at VIR?

[EmerWil]

I think at this point I should probably post a little disclaimer...

"All opinions expressed here are the opinions of the author and are no way tied to any organization, group or affliation.  The opinions expressed here may not be shared or endorsed by any other persons or organizations"

thank you

[divein6]

I sit here and read this thread and can only imagine that more then half of the people replying negitive posts about TPM has probably never even gone to a TPM event. To say they are not professional is completly off base. Go to an event first before you comment. You will see at any TPM event there are more "professional services" provided then any other club around, wether it is airfence that no other club provides, to tire changing, parts, and even a race school that is available, something not many clubs offer.

You can b!tch about not getting lunch, (which aparently it was there for you) You can b!tch about being "mistreated" that happens and I am sure it wont be the last time either. But you know what you are getting in to when you came to corner work. You knew you werent on the list i assume they had to fit you in and you are getting PAID to corner work.

You dont have the b!tch about who oiled down the track. Heck it could have been a beginner or an expert racer who did it, but apparently you wanted to make your little rant more eye catching by saying it was the club president. Fact is it dosent matter who oiled the track down you just had to make your point .

Sorry you had a bad experience, but the fact is for every one bad experience with the club there are about 150 fantastic experinces with TPM that no one posts about.