CCS vs WERA

[bobo#145]

Hello all
i am new to this board an would like to ask you guys a few questions. We are presently racing with WERA an they just hit us with the mandatory transponders, they are charging us $260 ea until march then they are $330 after that, or you can rent them for $40 per event, then to top it all off they have raised the price of entry fees another $10
 So here are my questions
1, tech....is it comparable to wera

2, payout an contegency programs,,,rate them

3, bike counts, are they decent

4, do you feel you are getting a good bang for your buck

5 if you have raced both what do you like dislike about each

thanks for helping me make my descion for next year

bobo

[EX#996]

Here are a few answers that I know.

1)  Tech is about the same except for supersport.  CCS is a little more relaxed and you don't have to safety wire your header bolts.

2)  Contingency....  If you qualify they're good.

3)  Bike counts depend on your region and class.  The Midwest has a good turn out of riders.

4)  Bang for the buck....  Compared to what?  The most enjoyable time at the track is after the races are done when everyone is sitting around the grill and shooting the sh#t.

5)  Never races both so I can't answer that one.

Dawn   :)

[DucRacer748]

I was gonna do a few races with WERA this year, but screw that. After I found out how much they were gonna hit me with excess fees.

So I'll just go to the Friday practice get my time in on the tracks I need to, like Barbers and then get ready for the CCS races.

WERA just shot themselves in the foot if you ask me.

[bobo#145]

996
tha is a great answerto bang for the buck, that is whats its all about.

duc748
you are right, the exssive fees are getting outa hand, i know of at least 5 people that have had enough

[SE#39]

Bobo -- if you are in the SE region -- check out the thread about the SE region banquet.

[r6_philly]

wera tech:

it is much more restrict than ccs tech. at least here in MA/SE. I have passed CCS tech with ONLY the oil stuff safetywire. So that means no axles, no brake caliper wire. I don't see it in the rule book either.

For WERA, even R6's are required to have lower removed when going to tech.

as for header bolts, WERA has stopped requiring they to be wired in 2004

Fees:
WERA transponder fees are going to be a killer. I am not going to buy one to do 3 weekends a season, but renting at $40 a pop seems pretty out of the question too  :-/

[Super Dave]

The transmitter fees are basically similar to what SCCA does.  Guess they must have lost too many of them to make it work.

Personally, I saw track insurance rates go up another 10% for 2004.  That's almost a doubling of cost since 2000.  The fees ain't gonna go down until the trial lawyers are put in their place.  (Health care, tire costs, loss of jobs to over seas markets that don't have such excessive litigation...where do want to stop?)

I'm not political...

But John Edwards made his money as a trial lawyer, then turned to politics.

[Baltobuell]

Dave, don't get me started. The American Bar Association needs to raise the bar,  with them being in control of all 3 branches of gov't, but that's another topic. WERA events in the Mid atlantic are very similar. Mostly the same guys. But a little more relaxed and fun with CCS.

[tug296]

In 83 at Road Atlanta, WERA had a National, the starter had on pink pants and a pok-adot white and yellow shirt and a wide white belt, that was enough to guide me in the right direction.

Seems like CCS is at least trying to keep cost down somewhat.

Almost time to get Political.

         H. #296am  Fl.

[doublrs]

LOL....I also will be one giving CCS a try this year because of the new Wera fees....see you guys at the track  ;D

[Super Dave]

CCS can keeps insurance costs a bit more reasonable because of Clear Channel Entertainment's ability to buy insurance globally for all it it's stuff.  CCS has secondary medical also.  I know CRA doesn't...others, I can't say.

[doublrs]

how much is the cost of the liscense with CCS....