Why do so many new racers quit?

[K3 Chris Onwiler]

RC51, TL1000, any 996, and of course, ohhh my Gawaad Archie, the GSXR 1000; sell your 250/500/600/650s to buy one of these great liter class bikes. This way we can all stand at the tire trailer together and talk about who has crashed the most.  ;D THAT'S why new racers quit; they were talked into buying REALLY slooowwwww machines!! ;)  

Uh, Dave?  I suspect that he was kidding...

[Super Dave]

shhh....I know..... ::)

[251am]

 :-X   OK, I'm done here, gotta go follow that MW cage match between SuperDave and Garthanon. Dave, your bizzare persistance to cure me of my GSX-R has me wondering about Vision Sports. Do you have a website where I can further investigate your insanity? Let me guess, were you a Packer fan back in the days of Dickey/Coffman/Ivory as well? Banging our heads against the same wall Sunday after Sunday expecting different results? Ughhh... Good luck in your cage match.    

[Super Dave]

Packers fan?  Sorry, I'm from a different state all together, so I follow a different college team.  I do like watching a good football game though.

I'm not going to cure anyone of anything.  Sorry.  You've got to make that decision.  Give me credit for being consistent.  8)

Website, if you missed in under my avatar and in my signature...

http://www.team-visionsports.com

Banging our heads against the same wall Sunday after Sunday expecting different results?

And that's what most people do in racing...  That's a quote that I use.  

[Nate R]

Dave, your bizzare persistance to cure me of my GSX-R has me wondering about Vision Sports.

Bizzare? Didn't mnay people here agree with him? Does that make us all bizarre?

Why are you so hard pressed to keep the 1000? We won't think you're a dork if you ride an SV, I promise!  ;)  I don't think anyone is laughing at Jessie, Brendan, or Ed Key. They all race or raced SVs

Can you afford the tires for the GSXR? What will it hurt to ride an SV, or even 600? If you're in it for the feeling of acceleration alone, then you should probably be on a drag strip. What will you prove by sticking with teh 1000? That you can only enter 3 classes and chew up a set of tires within that time? We all know that already.

Wondering about Visionsports? If you think LCR School was similar to mentoring, you're missing out on a lot. VRS taught me a LOT and REALLY brought down my times. Thanx SD!

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[tigerblade]

Packers fan?  Sorry, I'm from a different state all together, so I follow a different college team.  I do like watching a good football game though.

Are you from Omaha?  You're not a Cornholer fan are you?!   :-/

[Super Dave]

Are you from Omaha?

Yeah, lived in Omaha for twenty-five years.  I like the Huskers more now that I'm away.  I don't get riled up or anything.  But for any team to be that good for so long...and to have more College All-Americans, walk ons, etc.  The reality is the UN system does a pretty good job.  

And, if you travel alot, you can always find someone with a Husker perseronalized license plate on a "foreign" plate.  It is kind of funny.

Rember...the NFL came to Omaha (there's lots of money there...that Buffet guy and some others...) to see about putting a team there.  After all the research was done, an NFL team just couldn't compete against Lincoln's college team.  That is reality.  Nebraska is just a bit different place than others.  Not in a bad way, but they might get razzed for it.  Guess it's just kind of like keeping a good secret...

Let's talk about my house taxes here in Wisconsin, which is supposed to have so many resources compared to other states...  How about the cost of the house?
 :o

[Super Dave]

Wondering about Visionsports? If you think LCR School was similar to mentoring, you're missing out on a lot. VRS taught me a LOT and REALLY brought down my times. Thanx SD!

Hey, thanks, Nate!

Ok, here's the reality of my early racing career.  I was young and kind of shy when I started.  Thought I knew everything, so I probably wouldn't have listened to someone like me either.  Then again, there wasn't the internet, there wasn't the proliferation of track days and schools.  You raced by doing it and that was how I learned.  Later, I worked with one of the top privateer AMA Superbike riders.  I learned a lot by watching.

I think obstinance kept me involved for all this time.  Did almost everything that I wanted to do, but I felt that I could help racers too...that's where the school came in.

Can I help everyone?  No, because the person has to make the decision and go find the money and time to do it.  I know it's hard, but that's the way it is.  I don't know if I could have found the time or money to do my school myself.  Would I have learned something?  Yeah, I could have saved a lot of money.

Back to bikes...I started racing in 1987 on a GSXR750...my first bike ever.  Did two races, then started racing a GSXR1100 Superbike with a team of guys that I knew.  Bought an RZ350 race bike from some guys in St Louis that I knew, and then I really learned how to ride better.  Migrated to a GSXR600 for 1988 (but they ended up re-doing the bike and it became the Katana 600....what a let down).  Learned a lot there.  And the rest....

[251am]

 Wow, tough crowd. Strap on a real motor you pussy.(You girls are so easy.) ;D  

[fourandsix]

Wow, tough crowd. Strap on a real motor you pussy.(You girls are so easy.) ;D  

I think they are trying to keep you from being a pavement magnet!

[tzracer]

Wondering about Visionsports? If you think LCR School was similar to mentoring, you're missing out on a lot. VRS taught me a LOT and REALLY brought down my times. Thanx SD!

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Nate, did you attend any LCR schools beside the licensing clinic?

How often did you ask any LCR instructors for help after you took the licensing clinic?

[Nate R]

No, I did not. I should have mentioned that. My point was that the MAIN focus of the Licensing clinic was to get you safe on the track, more so than mentoring you all the way.

I did not ask for help, and I'm sure you would have given it had I done so. But, the focus of the licensing clinic IS VERY different than that of VRS. Not to say the school doesnt do it's job, or that the other LCR schools wouldn't do something similar to VRS, but I believe the guy with the 1000 said he only took the licensing clinic, and when you compare just that to basic VRS, its a big difference.