Moto ST

[Noidly1]

What's the deal with the Rolling Starts?
Is Moto ST a division of NASCAR or something?
I get it, NASBIKE...

[KTG]

Its call endurance racing...........

[Noidly1]

Ok...

[PJ]

MOTO-ST is part of Grand Am, which is owned by NASCAR.

The rolling starts were intended to reduce the chance of a T1 incident off the start. It was strange at first, but we got used to it.

[123user]

You got the NASBIKE thing right.  If they run it like NASCAR it will surely make money, become a soap opera, and become impossible for a privateer to compete.  Frankly, its a conflict of interest for a venue to own a race series.  No where was this more true at Daytona this fall.  Moto-ST sucked up 1/3 the tracktime, then kicked club racers out of their (paid for) garages.  Hopefully, after the way they screwed up Road America this summer and treated CCS racers at Daytona, our association with this organization will end.  Moto-ST is a bad neighbor.

[Noidly1]

God... What a bunch of crap.
I just read most of the rules for them.
Spec Fuel, Spec Tire and Medial Obligations. Yes, MEDIAL OBLIGATIONS, Sebtion 6.
http://www.moto-st.com/Rules/SportingRegs.asp

Sponsor signage on ones bike must be approved??? WTF?
NO private pics or vids...
Sounds like if you want to play with them then they OWN you.

PHUK THAT !!!

What smells like NASBIKE must be NASBIKE.

N - National
A - Associasion of
S - Stupid
B - Bussiness
I - Idiots
K - Killing motorcycle
E - Enjoyment

[Super Dave]

Don't forget, the France familly understands how to operate a successful business.  There are plenty of people in the organization that also have a passion for motorcycles.

And MotoST pays a purse to 30th place. 

[Garywc]

I watched Moto st at Road America they seem to come in and take over the hole place. they have there own set of rules but they do pay well and with all there spec fuel and tires makes it less reasons for one team to do better then the other except for skill. and they have there races on speed channel  like today at 12 is VIR.
I would love to ride a moto st race but its just not in my budget

[Super Dave]

You have the bike in the avatar.   

I'm riding for you.  But you have to feed Ivan.

[PJ721]

The people that are running the MOTO-ST series and many of the rules that are in place come directly from the Canadian SuperBike Series.

The Spec Tire and Spec Fuel worked out great this year...caused no problems for our team (#36 DucNY)

Medial Obligations are due to the amount of press and TV coverage.

Roadracing World and SpeedTV covered each event for the season. And Like Gary said...been televised  on Tuesday @ noon the last few weeks...

This is a professional series with paying sponsors and contingency that's why any sponosor decals on the bike need to be approved. I wasn't aware of any that were denied - OTHER than not allowing another tire manufacture, fuel supplier, ect.

CCS arranaged the garage rentals for Daytona...for both CCS and MOTO-ST - and we paid the same amount to CCS for our Moto-ST garage as we did for our CCS one.

[123user]

The problem with Moto-ST is not that there is a lack of passion or that they want to make money.  The France family is very wealthy.  They can afford to rent out entire venues on their own... they don't need to piggyback on CCS, WERA, AHRMA, etc.  At both Daytona and RA they monopolized the schedule and caused major hassles for club racers.  I wish the Moto-ST the best of luck, but not at the expense of my weekend!

For the record, spec-anything is stupid.  It just like telling a manufacturer "you can stop developement because you have a sure thing".  You can say what you want about factory riders getting "specials",  but in the end we all benefit from friendly competition.

I'm familar with the NASCAR-style.  There are privateer teams that get screwed regularly.  Any racing series that guarantees a grid position to 43 people in a 45 car field is ethically bankrupt.  I'm just afraid that NASCAR may rub off on CCS, a little greed goes a long way!

[Super Dave]

Well, I thought that CCS benefited from having MotoST at their events.  I mean, honestly, there isn't much draw for CCS/ASRA racing.  MotoST isn't huge, but it is new.  Additionally, the unique twins format is attractive to some unique sides of the motorcycle industry:  Buell, BMW, Ducati, SV650, Aprilia.  It still allows an opportunity for other players too like Kawasaki, which doesn't have the anchor that the SV650 does, some of the Chinese brands, etc.  Additionally, there isn't the corruption of so many kit boxes and all either. 

At Road America, I entered a team into the MotoST race.  I was curious how it was all going to fit.  Considering that the two hour practice was at the end of the day, in addition to the race being at the end of the day, I don't think it affected any outcomes in race distance or anything.  Basically, I think MotoST rented time from CCS for space that they wouldn't plan to use.  Seems like that reduces the overhead of operating a risky event at an expensive venue like Road America. 

I didn't see that they monopolized the schedule.  If you could elaborate on that, I'd like to listen to your thoughts on that.  I've been racing at Road America since 1988, and, quite often, I'd just assume that we don't race there because I think it usually ends up being a disaster.  I thought my time there this year went pretty well inspite of my own personal problems and time constraints during the days there.