2008 rules changes

[spyderchick]

Link to changes both approved and denied

Discuss!

[tomholiday]

can someone explain this to this dense brain of mine:

Ultra-Light Superbike
Request: Allow 650cc water cooled twins
Action: Approved
The other bikes in this class have come up while the level of the SV650 and Ninja 650s has been
eclipsed by other machines in the Lightweight classes. This places 3 models with 70hp/350lbs

[truckstop]

try this thread: http://www.ccsforum.com/index.php/topic,18980.0.html

[roadracer162]

What kinda crazy crap is this? old inline 4 in Lightweight are just what they have done with watercooled twins in Ultra. Where is that argument that we don't change the rules to make a technically faster or more dominant bike now a smaller class bike?

Dave?

Mark

[tomholiday]

I think its of the DOESN'T MAKE SENSE variety.

[Ridgeway]

"Request: Change CCS grids to set by points
Action: Denied
The majority of racers prefer grids set by entry date for entry level racing"

How was this measured?  "Grid by points" seems to have the popular support of the membership here doesn't it?

[ekraft84]

Why would you not grid by points?  That doesn't make any sense to me.

What's after Ultra Lightweight?  Super Duper Really Light, Lightweight? 

[Super Dave]

I'm over on the other thread.


I'm a bit shocked by some of the approved changes.

A similar thing happened in 2003 or so where CCS decided that, because of rider input, that experts would practice first in the morning.  That was a big change as experts had always held the opportunity of being late in the rotation.  Even some of the amateurs commented that that was one of the nice points of being an expert and what made them want to be experts.

Invariably, squeeky wheels get grease, I guess. 

Where's K3 with his low budget ideas? 

[SVbadguy]

"Request: Change CCS grids to set by points
Action: Denied
The majority of racers prefer grids set by entry date for entry level racing"

How was this measured?  "Grid by points" seems to have the popular support of the membership here doesn't it?

That's what I'm wondering.  Did I miss the poll/vote?

Now it's even more certain that I absolutely won't be racing the DR650 anymore.  I used to take it out in ULWSB.  Even on the tightest of tracks I'll kick my own ass on the DR with my SV, lap times are not even close.

[HAWK]

Agreed, I can run 4 seconds faster on my SS SV than my SB Hawk at BHF.

[steve p]

"Request: Change CCS grids to set by points
Action: Denied
The majority of racers prefer grids set by entry date for entry level racing"

How was this measured?  "Grid by points" seems to have the popular support of the membership here doesn't it?

Right.  WTF.  I must have missed the poll too.  I thought from what I remember it was overwhelmingly in favor of grid by points.  At least they could be honest and make up an excuse that half way sounds good.  It has been
like this for as long as I remember, at least since 1990, and will probably
be like this till pigs fly.

[steve p]

  Could not get the cut and paste to work, but with regards to the
qualifying, under the procedures section.  You've got to be freeking kidding
me.  Why not just again be honest and say takes too much time and money.  People could live with that.  I would be ok with that.  But to say that the
pressure would be too much is just ridiculous.  It is entry level racing but
I don't think it was suggested to qual. for every class.  And if the pressure
is just too great than don't race that class.  Eventually some people are
going to want to move on and they are going to have to qual. I mean lets get
real why not have a pedicure station right at pit out so if you are too wound
up then you can relax before the big race.  That is why we race, competition,
pressure, adrenalin, etc.  None of us really have a chance to change any
of the decisions but at least be honest with us.  Too much pressure, PFFFT.

Done venting, 

Thanks  I feel better