08 LW class rules

[L8brake731]

Back to basics-

Displacement, cooling type.

At least running with air cooled Buells was competitive. It's never any fun getting your ass handed to you by liter bikes on long tracks. Kind of the same rules that apply to the Ducs and Aprilia's. At least we were all competitive. Getting back to the F800 BMW....

As for running 3 SV's for different classes; I wonder if it's really true that there will be "different prep rules" being imposed on SV's and possibly the Kawi's? Guess us LW guys have given the impression we have deep pockets.

Wouldn't it have made more sense to impose these supposed prep rules for the upcoming BMW's instead of ruining the ULWSB class?

As always, you can race up a class. But if we find there are 3-5 BMW's on the LW grid, why bother; why waste your money and your equipment? BMW has always been one to be the "Standout" in the crowd, but this may bring them to be left standing alone.

[mwsportsimaging]

Lets not forget that the sv is a 5 year old design.  Suzuki could come out with a new imporved sv next year that would be right on pace with the ducs and bmws.  Then what?  Change the rule again to move them back to LW?

[xb9racer]

Seems odd to me that the 984cc Buells were kicked out of ULSB and bumped up to lLW to race against the SV which they were deemed to be more competitive with. But now the SV's  are bumped back to UL but the 984cc Buells are not?
All seems a waste to me.

[Super Dave]

Ok, thanks for shedding light on that.  I though there was something about the XB9R in the past.

Again, we need a complete list of the new rules.

[HAWK]

Back to basics-

Displacement, cooling type.

At least running with air cooled Buells was competitive. It's never any fun getting your ass handed to you by liter bikes on long tracks. Kind of the same rules that apply to the Ducs and Aprilia's. At least we were all competitive. Getting back to the F800 BMW....

As for running 3 SV's for different classes; I wonder if it's really true that there will be "different prep rules" being imposed on SV's and possibly the Kawi's? Guess us LW guys have given the impression we have deep pockets.

Wouldn't it have made more sense to impose these supposed prep rules for the upcoming BMW's instead of ruining the ULWSB class?

As always, you can race up a class. But if we find there are 3-5 BMW's on the LW grid, why bother; why waste your money and your equipment? BMW has always been one to be the "Standout" in the crowd, but this may bring them to be left standing alone.

All good points. They should be made to Eric at CCS, if there is enough noise we might be able to get this change revised. The rulebooks have not been printed so it is not yet cast in stone. I think this one caught a bunch of us off guard so make some noise if you disagree.

[123user]

Hawks are screwed!

Yes!  But they've been screwed for a long time now.  Even with last years rules, hawks are for dedicated "hawk people".  I raced one for a couple of years... even won a regional and track championship on one.  Mine was pretty fast in its final incarnation, but still strugglled with SV's.  There's one exception... if you put a kx500 in one it'll really cook... but only for a couple of laps.  After that, parts start falling off.

[Team Spalding]

Seems to me that in the LWT classes this year the mix of bikes were all very competitive and that the rules were pretty well sorted out. Racing with Vtwins, inline 4s and air cooled bikes that are all competitive is what makes LWTs fun. Even at the ROC where hp rules there was many SVs on the podiums even though most went to Duc and BMW. I think L8break731 is right on the money, if the change is because of the BMW and Duc then impose the rules on the new bikes not the ones that are the bread and butter of the class. If there is a change that major it should be announced a year ahead of time.

[roadracer162]

Where do I sign up to bitch and complain to the powers at be? In writing or a phone call? Will they answer the phone?

Mark

[roadracer162]

Track days are looking a lot better.

Mark

[apriliaman]

i won the midatlantic & and southeast ulsb class with my 63hp FZR 400.While i only won 1 race, i finished all my races and got the points.I only used 2 sets of tires for the whole year and did over 700 track miles for this year,this bike is cheap to maintain and the only time i work on it is in the winter.Compare with my 72 hp SV 650 i have,my SV is an average 6-8 seconds faster per lap on any track and my 86hp ducati 1000ss is another 1-2 sec faster then my SV.I guess now i got to retire my favorite bike to ride from racing,and get my SV running again.An SV is NOT an Ultralight bike.The rules that there is now is good and should be left alone.

[APP_Racing]

I tried calling today to get a better understanding and to voice my opinion but...  They aren't open on Friday's.  So I guess we all have to call on Monday.

[HAWK]

If you want to make some noise then please write Eric, He is open to discussion and has already told me that the rule books are not printed so nothing is cast in stone yet. I brought up many of the same topics that are being mentioned here with Eric earlier today and he was very open minded about it. Send Eric an email and let him know that this is not what you want if enough complain then things can be changed.

Eric.Kelcher@ccsracing.us