f40 why no 1000's?

[jeff_mckinney]

Sorry if this has been covered,did a search but nothing came up.
What is the reasoning behind nothing bigger than 750's in f40?

I would understand the logic if it weren't for the fact that there is a 1000 novice class

I would like to start racing again but really didn't want to buy another bike,just curious,thanks!

[tzracer]

Probably because the field would shrink. There are not that many people racing 1000s. Letting them in formula 40 would stop most people on smaller bikes from entering.

Besides old guys should not be racing such a large bike.

[Mark Bernard]

Here is what I forund in the handy dandy rule book...

6.8 FORMULA FORTY - All participants in Formula 40 must be at least 40 years of age. (Amateur and Expert Divisions)
   6.8.1  All machines legal for LW/SS, LW/SB, 125 GP or Thunderbike are legal for LW-F40.
   6.8.2  All Formula 40 machines must meet the requirements of LW/GP or HW/SS.

LIGHTWEIGHT FORMULA 40 (Amateur and Expert Divisions)
Single Cylinder, Unlimited displacement.
Two stroke, unlimited displacement.
Twin cylinder, air cooled, Unlimited displacement.
Twin cylinder, liquid cooled, 3 or less valves per cylinder, unlimited displacement.
Twin cylinder, liquid cooled, 4 valves per cylinder, non-desmodromic valves up to 750cc.
Twin cylinder, liquid cooled, 4 valves per cylinder, up to 750cc.
Three cylinder, non fuel injected, up to 1200cc.
Four cylinder, 3 or more valves per cylinder, air cooled up to 1200cc.
Four cylinder, 2valve, air-cooled, unlimited displacement.
Four cylinder, liquid cooled, up to 565cc.
Four cylinder, liquid cooled, 1990 to 1992 model year, up to 650cc.
Four cylinder, liquid cooled (oil or water), pre-1990 model year, up to 860cc.
    
Note: Pourpose built road race machinery such as Yamaha's TZ250, Honda's RS250, ect. are excluded form LW/F40. 125cc two-stroke GP machines are eligible for LW/F40.

FORMULA 40 (Amatuer and Expert Divisions)
Twin cylinder, liquid cooled, up to 1000cc.
Four cylinder, liquid cooled, up to 775cc.
Four cylinder, air cooled,2 valve, up to 1100cc.
All other engine configurations, Unlimited displacement.

I hope this helps. BTW, what are you wanting to ride? Mark B.

[PaulV]

Good Question!

With the demize of the 750 classes, it would be nice to see the 1k's added.  Most MW (A.W.) tracks tend to favor 600's over the 1k's.
You have my support, go get'em!!!! 8)

Paul
Polar-Optics
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[Woofentino Pugrossi]

Good Question!

With the demize of the 750 classes,

What demise of the 750 class? ;D If ya need to race a 1000 in F40, theres always 1000cc twins. ;D

[ahastings]

I know one less rider in F40 because of the 750 limit- me. WERA senior Superbike allows them, and it doesn't hurt the grid size there. I petitioned CCS to change the rule in the offseason with no succes, doesn't make sense because they have a LW f 40 for the small bikes. How many over 40 riders do you think will go much faster on a 1000 anyway. If anything the grid size would be larger because there are probably 2 or 3 more riders that would run the race each weekend.

[picman]

Probably because the field would shrink. There are not that many people racing 1000s. Letting them in formula 40 would stop most people on smaller bikes from entering.

Besides old guys should not be racing such a large bike.

hahahahaha

[jryer]

I was looking at the rules and was also wondering why no liter class bikes? I turn 40 in august and really wanted to participate in the class. Like to see CCS change this. I believe it will attract more riders not less. :-\

[CCSRacer114]

I was looking at the rules and was also wondering why no liter class bikes? I turn 40 in august and really wanted to participate in the class. Like to see CCS change this. I believe it will attract more riders not less. :-\

You all should just petition for the creation of  an Unlimited F40 class (Ex/Am - Unlimited SS Rules) and add that to the current field.... (It would only be 6 simultaneous races instead of the now confusing 4).

[Super Dave]

I was looking at the rules and was also wondering why no liter class bikes?  I believe it will attract more riders not less. :-\

Middleweight and Heavyweight entries far outweigh Unlimited entries, in general.  Formula 40 is a class that serves a larger population of middleweight and heavyweight entries.

Personally, I think that amateur/novice riders should be limited to 750cc fours and 1000cc twins (and Buells/H-D plus sizes).

For those who have raced or raced against 1000cc bikes, they have dramatically different performance that few capable expert riders are able to exploit.  I can't say that they have proven to be more crash prone myself.  But it wasn't so long ago that the old 1100cc bikes, which were much slower than the current crop of 1000's, were not allowed as race bikes for amateur/novice racers.

[ROOKIE#14]

I thing if ccs change the rule from 750 to 1000, should be unlimited or stay the way it is.
If ssc going to make the change for 5-10 riders, lets do it for 20 riders and make evrybody
happy!!!!!!!       ???

[cardzilla]

You all should just petition for the creation of  an Unlimited F40 class (Ex/Am - Unlimited SS Rules) and add that to the current field.... (It would only be 6 simultaneous races instead of the now confusing 4).

Nooooooooooo!

Don't you think we have too many classes already?  I've always wondered about F40 anyway... not to slight anyone, but why not just help fill out the grids for the regular races your bike qualifies for.  Is finishing 3rd or 4th in F40 better than 10th or 11th in a supersport race?  God willing, if I'm still racing at 40 I would still enter the same classes I'm in now, not F40.  I think contracting the classes would help contingency and overall competition... I'm pretty tired of lining up against a whopping five other riders.

Hey, SD, what's your opinion?  Your a bit closer to 40 than me and you've been a very competitive rider over the years... do you plan on adding f40 to your schedule of races when you turn 40?