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[TommyG]

Tommy, stop making pre-excuses for being slow.

;D

[Luckystrike]

You all want to know who the said rider is? I'll give you a hint.


DYNOMITE!

[Xian_13]

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Back to the cornerworker thing...love, love, love all the cornerworkers to death, but, if my husband was on the track, I would be SCARED if I knew corners were manned by people who were forced to work just so they could race.  Of course, the experience is good, but not everyone is cut out for that responsibility.  

Heather

This all amazes me.
The differance of opinion...
But even more so, the way things are twisted to create negitivity...

Its like saying... You are "Forced" to take a school to get your licence.


XIII

[Jeff]

Its like saying... You are "Forced" to take a school to get your licence.

You are...  It's not an option, it's not a choice.  If you want to get your license, you MUST attend a school.

The difference is that being forced to attend a school doesn't have the immediate and direct ability to affect the safety/well-being of yourself/others in the same manner as being forced to cornerwork.

[Super Dave]

It's not a 1:13 at BHF, but Stumpy got into the 1:14s in July 2003, with a 1:14.10.  This was his first year ever on the track.  No track days, nothing.

Another example...Greg was able to be competitive, turning competitive amateur times, his first year.

[Super Dave]

Blackhawk, Wegman Weekend 2004, 113.2 best. Ran 6 of 8 laps in the 13's, and I'm an idiot....ask anyone. First year amateur......took Daves school too, in the rain even.  ;D

Hmm, can competitive front running lap times be turned without trackdays and lots of racing experience?  Yes.

[Super Dave]

You are...  It's not an option, it's not a choice.  If you want to get your license, you MUST attend a school.

The difference is that being forced to attend a school doesn't have the immediate and direct ability to affect the safety/well-being of yourself/others in the same manner as being forced to cornerwork.

Agreed.

[Jeff]

Hmm, can competitive front running lap times be turned without trackdays and lots of racing experience?  Yes.

Johnson, how many times did you crash?  (a TON)
Are you still racing?  (not really)
Are you as fast now or faster than you were then? (probably not)

I rest my case...

This isn't a bash on Johnson, it's just an example of how I see people go through the process of "being fast before their time" (for lack of better words).

[Super Dave]

I've seen guys that didn't crash get slower.

What's the point?  

Money is the point, often.  Money not spent well.  Money that was needed for something else.  

Motivation too.  You can't buy that either.

[Johnson]

Johnson, how many times did you crash?  (a TON)
Are you still racing?  (not really)
Are you as fast now or faster than you were then? (probably not)

I rest my case...

This isn't a bash on Johnson, it's just an example of how I see people go through the process of "being fast before their time" (for lack of better words).

Jeffy.........

question 1
six times.......28 race wins in 14 weekends.  3 midwest championships 2 national championships homestead Miami. how many times for you? I saw your sparks flyin more than once.

2. yes....4 titanium screws and a plate at RA at the snow race, did set back the budget, and my physical conditioning, but you will be seeing me again next season. (my back  ;))

3 faster? no.....as fast?, pretty close. I raced one race at blackhawk coming off my injury....ran mid 14's, and thats with one practice day after 3 months of couch racing. I will progress to 12's and 11's. That is my goal.

In order to find the limits of suspension setup and traction, sometimes you must exceed them. The secret is to become good enough to find the limit and stay barely within it.

No hard feelings Jeff....... :-* Naturally I see things differently. You don't really think you have it all figured out yet do you? There's still more to come.  ;D ;D ;D

[Johnson]

Oh yeah BTW,

remember when i crashed in 5A and lost part of my butt cheek, and killed my leathers? You loaned you leathers to me the next day......and I won all four races in them the next day. Those were some lucky leathers. I still laugh at the pictures of me racing in those. Check it out www.rostrumracing.com look in the photo gallery.

I really appreciate all the help with parts/leathers that season......It's those things that make racing so sweet......whether your winning races, or sliding on your head.

Thanks buddy  ;)

[Jeff]

Yeah Ryan, it was cool to be able to swap parts and share the times.  

I don't have all the answers (never claimed to), and I certainly don't knock your success because it's more than I have achieved in a season.  I just wonder where you'd be right now with times/success if you spent your first year running about 15-20% less than you did.  You ran balls out and won a lot, but took a beating in the process.

My thought is that if a person can back off just a touch and use that space to learn, it might be better in the long run.

Just my goofy concepts.

I look forward to seeing you at the banquet and back on the track next year.  I'll do my best to keep you behind me.  :P