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Started by Protein Filled, November 04, 2005, 10:50:54 AM

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Protein Filled

What would you do to make CCS a better race organization? What I mean is, what do you think CCS could do to become a better organization to it's customer base? I know the top complains that seem to come up are customer support with things like refunds and pre-entries and the ability to view lap times/results online. I think the addition of AMB transponders will take care of that second item, but what else do you guys/gals think will help?

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Wow, was that a complete sentence Edgar?  J/K Seriously though, I hope the transponder deal works out.  I would like to see more input into the schedule, ahem Road America Ice Racing, although it looks like nothing has changed for next year.  Combine some classes, make the races longer.  Switch to an AMA start procedure complete with flashing start lights. Pit bikes races (after the races, not in the middle of the night).  How about a year book, see the CRA site.  Different trophies. Wheelies permitted for the top three finishers, provided that you can do them, otherwise keep waving.  Bring Hooters on as a primary sponsor.  Change the rules, so that if you crash you must work that corner you fell down closest too during one of your off races. PA system for the rider meetings. Ban Suzuki.
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AM_#726

wheelie thing is a good idea. I miss riding those...Dont have a street bike anymore to do them, hard to sneak in that wheelie at the races. lol  All of your ideas are great...drop the suzuki thing though....what am I going to win on?

dstar26t

-no gridding based on pre-entry...should be based on points in that class instead.
-no shenandoah
-cooler trophies
-quicker registration
Nate Panek

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AM_#726


Woofentino Pugrossi

Quote-no gridding based on pre-entry...should be based on points in that class instead.

Actually make it so the 1st two rows are based on points and by entry the rest.




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Xian_13

Only thing there really pops out to me...

LOWER Gate fees.

YOu can do all the wheelies you want... but you need people to see the show first.
You can have all the kewlest trophies in the world... with no one to see them...

Anyways, you get the picture.
We all want people to watch, this brings in money, sponsors, new rides...

Just my Opinion....

XIII
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kmf600

QuoteOnly thing there really pops out to me...

LOWER Gate fees.

YOu can do all the wheelies you want... but you need people to see the show first.
You can have all the kewlest trophies in the world... with no one to see them...

Anyways, you get the picture.
We all want people to watch, this brings in money, sponsors, new rides...

Just my Opinion....

XIII
I agree, to get myself and my wife in it cost $50.  Then if I bring a guy to help change tires, that's $75.  That is another race.  I have 20 friends ask me if I can get them in as a "pit crew"  When I tell them I have to pay to, they can't belive it.

Racingxtc7

#9
Go to ANY amatuer type motorsports event and tell me how much specators pay?!?!?!

MX usaully $5
Car Dirt track $7
Motorcycle dirt track $5
Drag Racing $10
Ice Racing $free
Please add to list.

I do more advertising than CCS themselves!! I'm always posting links and speading the word all over the web!! I even have CCS stickers on my truck!! There are alot of people who want to come out and bring there kids but no family of 4 is going to fork out $100!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

K3 Chris Onwiler

#10
Oh, I've got LOTS of opinions on this subject....
First, Endurance racing.
How to fit that into the schedule?  Simple.  Fewer classes.  Pitch the GT races for a start.  That frees up 2-3 hours on Saturday.  Then lose the classes that few people run in.  SCCA car racing tracks each class's entries.  Fall below a certain level, probation next year.  No improvement?  No more class.
When we used to go to Hallet in conjunction with CMRA, we ran a four hour endurance race with all classes of bikes elegible.  The only CCS classes eliminated were the GT races.
What if we enforced the rules?  If you never tear anyone down, everyone has to cheat to be competitive.  Those who can't afford to cheat lose.  I've been in engine shops and seen with my own eyes cheater bikes going together.  The names of those riders might surprise you.  Squeeky clean, unimpeachable statesmen of our sport, who undoubtedly win on talent and experience alone.  Guys who clearly could never afford cheater parts.  HA!  Don't believe it.  I've seen those bikes win championships.  I've been beaten by those bikes.  Why didn't I protest?  Who wants to be known as the whiner who can only win by protest?  But I'd damn sure like to know if I could have beaten those guys had they been on legal machines!
I agree about the gate fees.  And just for the record, I found out that CCS does indeed take half the gate.  That has been denied many times, but I've heard it now from two track owners.
Spectators.  We need them.  We could have them.  CCS doesn't want them.  There are a million sportbike riders out there.  They DO come to racetracks.  How do I know?  You should see how many show up to TRACK DAYS!  Gingerman and Autobahn don't even charge spectators a gate fee during track days, and dozens to hundreds show up just to watch a bunch of guys ride around!  CCS has the advertising might, and they have the show.  If we don't get spectators, it's because CCS doesn't want them.  The high gate fee is the final straw.
Hey, much love to the skeleton crew that runs this national org.  But let's face it.  Clearchannel just wants our money.  That's why the rulebook and schedule award those who can pay the most.  Wanna buy a #1 plate?  No sweat if you have the money and time.  Wanna be a regional champ?  Don't miss a single race, by God!  And the ones that are 700 miles from your home?  Double points or twin sprints, of course!  Classes for bikes that only 8-10 guys in the whole country are racing?  Hey, it's money.  Give 'em a race!  Sell our Saturday for an LP track day, and give us no price break for effectively stealing 1/2 a weekend?  Shut up and pay, racer scum.
This is pointless.  We are held hostage by CCS.  What we need is for WERA to swallow CCS whole.  Again, much love to those valliant few running CCS.  I feel for you, because I too work for evil, uncaring bosses without souls.
Sorry for the rant.
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stumpy

Points! They did a horrible job for me last year. Right up till the banquet they had the wrong Blackhawk farms champion named , Heather kept track of points and had to correct CCS after every race, Made chasing points miserable. It's weird how at my cycling races they actually have what place you got and your current points before your heart rate came down from the race, And it is usually volunteers
and to think the race only cost 25 bucks to enter! You even get free lunch and jerseys. I still wake up every morning and have a bad taste in my mouth from CCS :P

Stumpy
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