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Started by balistic, September 27, 2004, 08:57:04 AM

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balistic

 Being a Willow local and working and racing many days a year there I was very interested in the policy change that preempted CCS to cancel the Streets race in December so I went and talked to the track management to find out what had occurred. I was told that no change in policy had occurred and what CCS had asked for was all the gate money and that without it they would not come.
The question I have now is this, what is PR? I have always gone by the definition of an acceptable truth, maybe not the whole truth but certainly not an untruth.
I have raced with CCS the last three years and the attendance of Pacific has gone down, why? In the face of competition from WERA canceling races will not bring riders back, neither will maligning race track management.
Will Eikenberry Pacific EX #63

duc995@aol.com

Unfortunately this is just one of many examples of CCS deficiencies...especially in the SW/Pacific regions. I personally have taken the past year off to reassess after racing with CCS in 2001 & 2002 in the SW region.  I felt that this was the only way to effectively show my displeasure with the way things are run...voting with my pocket book!

Dawn

There's always two sides to every story....

Each contract is negotiated with the track and with all negotiations, there is two sides and two different view points.  I'm not saying that I know all the answers, but here's some scenerios....

Some tracks offer a lower track rental, but then ask for the gate fees.

Some tracks have a higher track rental, but CCS keeps the gate fees.

Call CCS and ask them why it was cancelled.  That way you would have all the information.

TiffineyIngram

FYI--Dawn hit the nail on the head.  The story you have recited an inaccurate depiction of what actually took place.

duc995@aol.com

What is this, Judge Wapner's court?  How come both sides can never have the same story?

Zac

I'm a little curious to hear what the real story was.  

I'm even more curious if one side or the other burned the bridges and we might not have any SoW races next year...would make the Pac schedule look awfully similar to the SW schedule with the loss of T-hill this year.

-z.

RAY_HYMER

I don't know why SOW was cancelled, but I am glad that our double points final for the SW region will be in Phoenix as a SW race, separate from the Pacific final in Buttonwillow.  I for one am happy that we have CCS in Arizona.  :)
  The reason for why the SW and Pacific regions are run ecomically is the turnout at each event.  If you look at the size of the grids back east, then you could understand why we are treated differently.  I would rather have CCS than have nothing.  I'll pay for the Saturday practice and not complain.  I think we should only have one region out here, though.  Mostly the same people show up in both regions, anyway.   :-/
For those of you that still need to ride in December, there are several track days in southern California, and SOCAL track days has an event at Pahrump, NV. 8)      

digitalRoost

so, where did you hear the last round in SW was going to be double points? I know SOW was going to be, but I've not seen anything that says they're making Firebird East double for the 2nd time this season.

RAY_HYMER

The first and last races of the year are always double points.  RoadracingWorld Magazine mentions that the Buttonwillow race is double points race for the Pacific region, and also mentions that the East track race in November is the last race for the SW region.  

brian213

QuoteI'm even more curious if one side or the other burned the bridges and we might not have any SoW races next year...would make the Pac schedule look awfully similar to the SW schedule with the loss of T-hill this year.
Zac, at least you're not losing the final round (double points) at your "home" track.  :)

Last week before Vegas I talked to management at Willow and then to Kevin in Vegas...the stories were similar, but two different sides, with each having a different purpose....like 2 sides of a coin.

-Brian

spyderchick

Hey Will, Alexa here. Email me. Thanks.
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balistic

  
QuoteFYI--Dawn hit the nail on the head.  The story you have recited an inaccurate depiction of what actually took place.


OK Ladies
              I'll bite, if the press release in RRW isn't in fact what CCS's side is then what is it? I have just stated the facts put forth in the official press VS what I was told by folk's I have worked with for many years.
             No matter what the real story is my local track was maligned and the race is cancelled, neither of these actions will help stop the bleeding in Pacific.
            I have no data about any of the other races cancelled but I suspect Clear Channel putting it's foot down on less profitable races. If that's the deal then say it, don't make excuses or try to shed responsibility. In that way PR becomes BS.
Will