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Can titanium knee sliders be use during practice/r

Started by RickyRacer, October 29, 2001, 10:17:49 AM

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RickyRacer

I need new knee sliders so I was wondering if CCS would allow them?
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Rich Desmond

Where you born stupid or this is a recent problem?? You want to throw sparks midcorner,  maybe breaking the concentration of someone behind you, maybe enough to cause them to crash?? Either out-grow the "Mommy Mommy look at me" phase or get off the track.

RickyRacer

That's your first post, to come and talk sh!t.  I see that you're going to be one of those lurkers that only come to flame someone. Well you can just :-* my AS$.  >:(

And what makes you think you can see any sparks during the day anyway? So far no one has gone off the track when I grind my foot-pegs.

I wanted something to last and would be fun on the street at NIGHT.

BTW, you need to keep your eyes off the rider and on the track. Stupid
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Rich Desmond

Well let's see, first off you can see sparks in the daytime, I've had guys with titanium cans crash in front of me, very visible. Second, you're foot pegs are probably aluminum, so no sparks. Third, if I'm following a guy his knee is very close to the same piece of track I'm watching. He plops his knee down no way I'm going to avoid seeing the result.
No, Ti knee sliders aren't going to cause many crashes, but why even go there? They have no upside. In case you haven't noticed, racing is a serious sport. We've lost 5 racers/track riders in the last 4 weeks. I've personally been at the track when 2 guys have died and 2 have been permanently paralyzed. My tolerance for street squids who show more concern for looking cool than they do for the safety of their fellow races is pretty damn low.

Rich Desmond

Well let's see, first off you can see sparks in the daytime, I've had guys with titanium cans crash in front of me, very visible. Second, you're foot pegs are probably aluminum, so no sparks. Third, if I'm following a guy his knee is very close to the same piece of track I'm watching. He plops his knee down no way I'm going to avoid seeing the result.
No, Ti knee sliders aren't going to cause many crashes, but why even go there? They have no upside. In case you haven't noticed, racing is a serious sport. We've lost 5 racers/track riders in the last 4 weeks. I've personally been at the track when 2 guys have died and 2 have been permanently paralyzed. My tolerance for street squids who show more concern for looking cool than they do for the safety of their fellow races is pretty damn low.

RickyRacer

Well then, that's all you had to say. You didn't have to come out and attack me like that.

Some WSB riders use titanium toe sliders so I thought I would ask about CCS. I have had this same question posed to me and my initial thought was no, they probably won't. It might not be safe.

I take riding seriously both on and off the track.  And I would never endanger anyone on the track while racing. If I come across a rider that wants to win at any cost, I just let him go. I don't need to win that badly. Rest assure you won't find anyone being more careful out there than I.

I am also sadden by the lost of fellow racers. It is very tragic and my prayers go out to those families and friends that have lost a love one. And if you lost someone, I am very sorry.

IMHO, there should not be any motorcycle races at Daytona. It's just not a safe track. It was not designed for us.

So don't go out assuming anything about people when you have no idea whom there are. You know what they say when you assume don't you?
 
BTW, I got your second post the first time.
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Rich Desmond

Sorry about the tone of my posts, I guess you just really pushed a button. I should of thought for a minute instead of flying off the handle. You're right about the consequences of "assume".  :)

Eric Kelcher

#7
Well two things one knee sliders or toe sliders containing metal are not legal in CCS events period.  

2nd the death at Daytona this fall had nothing to do with it being at Daytona it had to do with inattention.

by the way Who is Rich Desmond?    ::)  :o  :P  ;D
Eric Kelcher
ASRA/CCS Director of Competition

RickyRacer

#8

No problem, I guess I had it coming somewhat.
If it wasn't for one of the WSB rider I saw use titanium toe sliders, I would not have asked about the knee slider.

I think if was Ben Boz that using them.
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RickyRacer


Quote2nd the death at Daytona this fall had nothing to do with it being at Daytona it had to do with inattention.


This time around. What is the number of rider fatalities in Daytona's history? Isn't in the 20's? That's way too  many. I'd much rather have the Daytona event moved to a facility like VIR.  

Since I have my answer, we can end this thread. And none too soon.
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Eric Kelcher

Not to minimize the safety concerns of tracks like Daytona but there has "only" been 8 deaths at Daytona; 33 total for all types of racing with most being car racing. Not many all things considered for a track that has been around for as long as it has and the level of competition it hosts. It may be more luck or maybe a level of respect that racers give the walls but most racers do not think about crashing they push all the way to the limit.  How many have died at other tracks?

Never been to VIR but the stats for Oct do not look promising to get the racing all in daylight wise and the grid sizes would be more limited due to track width/length.

I'll be going back next year and bringing some of the best racers with me again.

Eric Kelcher
ASRA/CCS Director of Competition

TightSqueeze

1. Rich did a great job of telling you how stupid the idea of Tit Pucks were.

2. RRW will be having a knee puck shootout in it's print mag in the next couple of months.  Read it, then determine what pucks to get.