Can titanium knee sliders be use during practice/r

[Mahly]

I have had people in front of me ( On track days) with Ti pucks, and really, there is VERY little danger of scaring the guy behind you. If anything, it is ammusing. Think of it, what is more alarming/alerting? Some sparks where you KNOW there is no frame to drag, or some one lighing up the rear tire on exit?
WAY too much is made of the dangers of the evil Ti pucks.
BTW...I believe it was Troy Bayliss useing them (Ti Toes) in WSB....and didn't make anyone crash either come to think of it.

[TightSqueeze]

You're gonna compare WSB to CCS?  ::) Oi vay!

[FullMoonRacing]

It's not the least bit "amusing", it's distracting and foolish.  Do your squid "look at me" shit elsewhere.  

[RickyRacer]

Why don't you Fu*ken bight me!! If you get distracted buy some sparks, then maybe you don't belong on the damn track.

I have also noticed that most people that like to use the term "squid", turn out to be people that can't ride worth a crap anyway.

But what can I expect, you're probably one those " I only come out to give people a rash of sh!t but never have anything positive to add" pin heads.  

[TightSqueeze]

Ricky,

I've got a couple Regional championships and numerous podium finishes over my 5 years of club racing, and YES, I would absolutely be distracted.

And, try not to be such an ass in your posts, ok?  Try to show some dignity and respect for yourself and especially to the other listers.  

There will come a point where you will need someone's help, and all that someone will remember is how you told them to "f*cking kiss your ass".  Comprendo?

Clean it up, or take a hike.

Why don't you Fu*ken bight me!! If you get distracted buy some sparks, then maybe you don't belong on the damn track.

I have also noticed that most people that like to use the term "squid", turn out to be people that can't ride worth a crap anyway.

But what can I expect, you're probably one those " I only come out to give people a rash of sh!t but never have anything positive to add" pin heads.  

[RickyRacer]

Yeah well, don't dish it out if you can't take it. I'm not the one insulting people and calling them names. If you call that helping then keep it to you're self. All I asked was a simple question. A yes or no answer would have sufficed.  Maybe it was a squidy post, but that doesn't call you people to get personal. Sorry, but I don't take that from anyone in person and I'm sure as hell not going to take it form some guy on a message board. If you call me, then out I'll come.

Now is this simple enough for you.

[TightSqueeze]

Why yes... 'Simple' is the perfect word to describe you.  

Again, tone it down, as you've gotten way too excited for your (notice the correct spelling of 'your') own good.

Yeah well, don't dish it out if you can't take it. I'm not the one insulting people and calling them names. If you call that helping then keep it to you're self. All I asked was a simple question. A yes or no answer would have sufficed.  Maybe it was a squidy post, but that doesn't call you people to get personal. Sorry, but I don't take that from anyone in person and I'm sure as hell not going to take it form some guy on a message board. If you call me, then out I'll come.

Now is this simple enough for you.

[ysr612]

I have also noticed that most people that like to use the term "squid", turn out to be people that can't ride worth a crap anyway.

you have had some very fine riders respond to you and in a rather civil manner.

[Papa_Thiam]

You guys are totally overheating over something that isn't worth it. I've used "sparkies" on occasion at track days just for fun and cool pictures. Most guys who had objections only had them until they found themselves following me. then they realize it's no big deal. I've followed guys throwing sparks myself.  I have to say, unless somebody brings pucks that are shooting flames, you'd have to be really jumpy to get distracted into crashing. I've had rocks thrown at me from the turn 3 gravel at Summit Point a few times. That's a hell of a lot more distracting than any sparks I've seen. I've raced in situations where the sun glare forced me to rely on my knowledge of a racetrack and trust that by using the same inputs, I would follow the same line, as I could barely see where I was going. That was a hell of a lot more dangerous/distracting than any sparks i've seen.

That said, i agree that there is absolutely no upside to using them. If there is even the slightest chance that someone would get hurt, I won't use them. The guys at my club konw I use them, and expect it. I have never used them on race weekends because you meet new racers every weekend, and they don't know what to expect when they get behind you for the first time.

In conclusion, I think you guys need to chill. It's not worth fighting over. There are plenty more reasons to fight. Those who also hang out on the WERA board know that.  ;D

[corien]

i have noticed that i go through my toesliders fairly quickly and am already on my second pair. i know troy corser uses those titanium ones and i think i need them too if i want to look as cool as mr corser. in fact, i think when i will be wearing these sparkorama sliders i will go as fast as the world superbike boyz. now that i have explained myself you will all understand that in order for me to win races and look cool i will have to throw sparks. my next item on my race agenda is: do i use sandpaper to scrub my tires in?

just kiddin'. this is absolutely not a topic to get excited about. too bad you guys got so hot and bothered.

corien

[TightSqueeze]

Imagine a Solo 20.  Suppose a couple of the leaders are wearing 'Sparkies'.  Suppose you're 3rd, and the lead pack comes upon a lapper, we'll call him Ricky for now.  Ricky isn't all that experienced, and suddenly two guys pass him at once, just as one of the passers throws out his knee and a sweet plume of sparks erupts.

Ricky, already disheveled by the double pass, now focuses intently on the pretty display.

Would you want to try and pass him at this point?  He's probably already stood the bike up a couple times, now his focus is completely shot.

It's not about the good guys wearing them, it's about safety, and there's just no place in racing for anything that can further distract any racer.

Have you ever seen the photographers flash bulbs on overcast days?  That bugs me and it's way off track.

[Mahly]

 :DHell yeah!  Hey if he stood up, he couldn't have gotten a drive out of that last corner. The way I see it, The guys with the sparkies just saved me a good 1/4 second  ;D
Seriously, Little Ricky is going to be much more freaked by 2 leaders passing him at once, and laying down some "sweet" black lines in front of him to worry about a couple of sparks.
All in all, it's really not that big of deal. I have been at track days when several riders had them, and not 1 person complianed.
I have ferrous bolts on one of my bikes for footpeg feelers....should those be banned as well? They do the SAME thing.
I'm not looking to piss anyone off here....just giving my $.02 on the idea that these things are really all that freaky. ;)