GMD and Fuel Science Contingency

[Steviebee]

I see these listed on the contingency form, but theres no requirements listed for Fuel Science, and GMD only says "Fill out CCS claim form"

Does anyone run these contingencys and what good are they for ?   I know a place that does GMD computrack, but what about Fuel Science ??   Or was this just to inflate the "CCS contingency is $$$$ blah blah blah" ???

It doesnt even say it requires stickers ??  Guess i should just check them off and see if i get lucky !!!

[Nate R]

GMD does not require stickers. THey'll just send you a postcard with a $50 off coupon if you finish 4th place in any race.

[Steviebee]

dammit   and i finished 4th last weekend too !!!

[MightyDuc Racing]

I finish 4th in Supertwins pretty much all the time...lol.  Gotten two of 'em in the mail so far and used one.  Sweet deal.

[Super Dave]

Um, yeah, what's Fuel Science?

[Jeff]

Talk to Matt Drucker www.mdracingstp.com

His Kyle Gordis measuring system and frame alignment is the bomb...  (no $50 savings certificate required  8) )

[Super Dave]

The GMD set up stuff is a bit different.  Other systems use set parameters rather than variable parameters based on specific measurements from a motorcycle.  An F4 is not the same as an, R6, or a GSXR, or an H1.  So, there are things, such as swingarm angle, that will never be the same between them.  

I have never used GMD until this year.  I understood the concept.  I can get there myself, but it takes a while of fiddling.  And that's lost time and money.  I would assume that I can have a bike that is in the correct ball park for rear ride height, fork height, etc. as soon as possible.  

4 & 6 is the local, Chicago area, GMD center.  http://4and6.com

I thought they were expensive.  I was wrong.  

Bottomline, even without the GMD stuff, there are only a small number of riders that have ever won an AMA 600 Supersport event other than factory riders.  4&6 has one, and he was up front all the time.  There results speak for themselves.  

Larry Denning?  4&6.  Proof's in the pudding.

Still don't know anything about Fuel Science....

[Steviebee]

so i guess i just check off Fuel Science and see what happens

[StuartV666]

I think GMD does require stickers on the bike. Of course, the likelihood that Tech would catch you if you didn't have them seems low.

But, if you want their contingency certificates, why NOT run their stickers. It doesn't seem like much to ask. They're offering to give you free stuff.

As for Fuel Science, that is a new fuel, like VP or Nutec that was supposed to be available this year. I talked to their President at Daytona. He was going around soliciting riders to apply for their Sponsored Rider program. Anyway, I heard from my engine guy a couple of weeks ago that Fuel Science had gone belly up and their Prez disappeared. Allegedly, with a bunch of the investors' money.

- Stu

[ecumike]

NO. GMD does not require stickers or any contingency forms.

I've gotten 5 certs from them so far this year and haven't done squat as far as any contingency info.

They do it automatically for 4th place finishers

unfortunately, I'll probably never use these by the end of this year.

[Decreasing_Dave]

I thought they were expensive.  I was wrong.  

Dave,

How much is "not expensive".   I have never heard any price quotes on their work.   Is it a secret??

I have a 2003 R6 that I want to set up for next season.  The bike has never been crashed, so I'll be starting from factory specs.

I know that I should call them direct, but I would like to be prepared for the price (should I be standing, sitting, or already lying on the floor  ;D)

[Super Dave]

I think it's like $450 to measure and optimize a bike.  It the bike requires tweaking, that would be extra.

Optimizing means that they apply the correct static lengths to the forks and shock.  You still need to select the correct spring and set up the sag right.