ULTB rules for 2015

[bruce71198]

KTM announced today that they will be running an RC Cup series at selected rounds of Moto America. Looks like I may be buying an RC390 soon, but I still don't think they should be allowed in ULTB or GTLU. Leave this class low buck entry level.
I think the KTM can runwith the ULWSB and LWSS and be competitive,

[apriliaman]

The KTM will run in the 500SS class.

[kneedragon88]

Glad I found this thread, I was wondering what would become of ULTB when the r3 and ktm came out.  I have to agree that I feel like it would be competitive with the 500's from what little i saw of the 500 class this year.  Bruce your 335 definitely can run with them because it definitely was too quick for our class.  Plus that little legality thing :).  You thinking of running strictly in 500 next year?


I'll probably run my 250 one more year than bump up to a 300 or try an r3 or ktm in 500 class if it grows.  Either way I'm already sick of snow, ready for the 2015 season to start. 

[Zaph]

Nov 18, 2014   KTM RC390, Honda CBR500R and Yamaha YZF-R3 Eligible As CCS Announces That 500cc SuperSport Class Will Run At Regional Championship Events In 2015 - roadracingworld.com

Well, that settles that.  I'm not too happy about it.  Of course they are eligible to run in a class designed for a bike with a larger engine, in much the same way an SV650 is eligible to run in middleweight.   None of the problems with the current classes were solved, and very interesting new models don't have a fair place to run.  300 Ninjas still have an unfair advantage over the 250's, and the RC390 and R3 are put into a class where they will be underpowered.  Not to mention that it's a class based on a single bike that nobody wants to buy.

All my opinion of course.  Oh well, back to combing craigslist for a crashed ninja 300 to convert.

[Capitalview]

Well put Zaph.  now CCS has THREE lightweight classes.


Ultra lightweight, middle lightweight, and actual lightweight.  Yeahhhhh, , we really needed another class...  getting through 17 races isn't tough enough now.  Lets add another.  Bet we get another lap reduction this year so we can fit all the classes in.  I know it was 8 laps at BFR in 2012.  Now it is down to 7 lap races.  I guess next year it will be 6.      That, of course, doesn't account for any incidents that take more than a couple minutes to clean up.  Then we will be stuck with 4 or 5 lap races.


I guess CCS doesn't understand the K.I.S.S. (Keep It Simple Stupid) philosophy.  We have heavy weight, kept around for ONE bike and, yet another class for the 600s to race in.  The 500 ss class, designed for one bike.  And then the UL class, which we keep around to protect the 250s, even though the Kawi 300 can run in it.  And like Zaph said, why buy a 250?  It is a waste of money.  Better to just wait until CCS pulls their head out of their asses and allow the R3 and RC into the lightweight class, where they belong.


I know the HW class isn't going anywhere.  To much money made from all the 600s entering it.


Sorry for the rant.  I had to vent about, what I feel, are stupid decisions.  I would love to see an articulate explanation as to why the 300 kawi was allowed into the UL class, yet the Yamaha and KTM aren't?


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[Woofentino Pugrossi]

Well if we can go BACK to 2 day races like it USED to be, we wouldn't be so hard pressed for time. Practice on sat an trying to run all the races sun sucks. 

[apriliaman]

The Honda CBR 500 isn't the only 500 out there.You can race the Kawasaki EX 500 which is faster in a straight line.

[Zaph]

There's also the Suzuki GS500

[bruce71198]

Glad I found this thread, I was wondering what would become of ULTB when the r3 and ktm came out.  I have to agree that I feel like it would be competitive with the 500's from what little i saw of the 500 class this year.  Bruce your 335 definitely can run with them because it definitely was too quick for our class.  Plus that little legality thing :).  You thinking of running strictly in 500 next year?


I'll probably run my 250 one more year than bump up to a 300 or try an r3 or ktm in 500 class if it grows.  Either way I'm already sick of snow, ready for the 2015 season to start. 

Well next seasons a toss up now. If the Moto America class pans out I'm putting my hat in the ring with my son as the rider. Depending on that schedule will determine my partisipation locally. But I'll be around on my 250 built to the ULWTB rules. If I still have all my bikes I may run the 335 still. If anyone needs a well sorted 250 I will need to part with at least one of them.

[joeymink]

Surprised to see this much discussion for a class that, as far as my experience goes, does not have many competitors. I'm 2 seasons into racing with WERA and CCS, and I'm usually the only Ninja 250. Most of my events have been at NJMP and Summit Point, so I'm not sure if it's bad luck or representative of the class population...


Regardless, here's hoping for bigger ULTB grids in 2015!

[apriliaman]

Not in Florida where they have more then 10-15 bikes in a race.In the North not so much.

[twilkinson3]

Bruce that kiddo of yours needs at least a chance, get him on a 390....call me some time maybe I can twist an arm or two in place to see about a bit o assistance on that