Daytona my crash.....anybody get it on film???

[Graham]

[quote author=XFACTOR link=topic=23792.msg192014#msg192014 date=12561850 I was going thru that turn in 4th wide open earlier.......this was the warm-up lap, I was half throttle in 3rd and next thing I new I was on my ass...
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You pretty much answered your own question as to why you lost the rear....maybe you just rolled off the throttle just a bit mid turn and or got of line and tried tighten it up on the exit.You would be surprised how fast your tires cool down from your pits to the track at daytona, lots of variables , just saying

[XFACTOR]

I didn't loose the frt. when I crashed, it was the rear.

I had felt my frt. give a little in a race earlier, but didn't go down.

[MELK-MAN]

I didn't loose the frt. when I crashed, it was the rear.

I had felt my frt. give a little in a race earlier, but didn't go down.

A Brad was pointing out, you can loose the rear just rolling off the gas. especially on a big bike (more motor breaking) with cold tires, and hitting the dip in the dog leg. It may not even take the dip, just cold tires, rolling off hard, and making some input that causes the loss of traction.

[Graham]

Sorry you crashed , I think Greg was just saying with limited time around Daytona on different compond tires under the conditions it probaly had more to do with you then the tires.Dog leg can be tricky and not  uncommon for riders to go down there.

And you never  should bash a race vendor on a public forum and it doesnt look good for you to do that for the sake of existing sponsors or future sponsors.Small world in this racing community.And when a rider blames the tire's for a crash, other riders just say, "Yep, always the tires fault".How many tire vendors do you think read this?Think they want to give you a break on tires after reading this or even sponsor you, think about it.Would you want to sponsor someone that will go on the internet and bash you.

[XFACTOR]

Sorry you crashed , I think Greg was just saying with limited time around Daytona on different compond tires under the conditions it probaly had more to do with you then the tires.Dog leg can be tricky and not  uncommon for riders to go down there.

And you never  should bash a race vendor on a public forum and it doesnt look good for you to do that for the sake of existing sponsors or future sponsors.Small world in this racing community.And when a rider blames the tire's for a crash, other riders just say, "Yep, always the tires fault".How many tire vendors do you think read this?Think they want to give you a break on tires after reading this or even sponsor you, think about it.Would you want to sponsor someone that will go on the internet and bash you.

I'm sure being a virgin at Daytona didn't help me, but leavin me hanging when asking for tire choices and info didn't help either... I'm not expecting to get sponsored doing this, I'm 40yrs. old, my time has come and gone. I do this for competitive fun; if Brubaker treated me differently maybe I wouldn't have bashed him. Treat all paying customers the same, that's the right way to run a business, not picking and choosing who to help.

[Graham]

Reading back threw some of the post seems a couple of people are unhappy with dunlop.Well come try Michelin where everyone is treated the same and only offer 1 kind of tire...Good ones!!!!

[XFACTOR]

I'll be going down to Jennings  after getting the bike back together, I'll be trying  ALL tire brands Michelin included.

[MELK-MAN]

THey sell michelin right at JGP as well, I would suggest the V front especially at a track like JGP where your on the side of the tire all the way around. THe rear is a toss up between the B and C.. That track really wears the left side, but if it is a cold day ya may need a B. An "A" rear, although the tire that Michelin built for temps below 70F , will just wear too fast to be worthwhile on a big bike.
And contingency? We get paid (cash) about a week or two after a race wekend like clockwork.

[XFACTOR]

This a,b,c stuff is new to me. Is it that way for slicks too? do they pay out for slicks? or just DOTs

appreciatte the info.

[MELK-MAN]

This a,b,c stuff is new to me. Is it that way for slicks too? do they pay out for slicks? or just DOTs

appreciatte the info.

same for the new slicks, they pay out in every class but the amount can vary. Most racers using the Power1 tires just use DOT all the time.

[MELK-MAN]

Xfactor,
what is your full name?

[XFACTOR]

why? is there going to be a hit out on me?