848 legal for middleweight supersport?

[hamurobby]

Over-reactor, I would love to see the rider-gear part of the weight equation be 200lbs, but I really dont see a 120lb guy putting 80lbs of lead on his bike, thats just not right either. Somewhere in between (say 170?) is a happy medium. If you read carefully the last paragraph of my last chapter I just wrote, Im not screaming about this for me, but for guys like you.
I say I was 190lbs before the rediculous diet/exercise program I went on, but I really was over 200lbs, so I know what its like to race heavy and now light. I also removed over 35lbs off my gsxr's,and they are unbelievably nimble and easy to ride. Its like I weigh 135lbs instead of 168lbs because of the weight I removed from the bike, as well as the weight from me. Before : bike 387lbs, rider (wthout gear) , 200lbs =  587lbs. after bike and rider diet, bike 349lbs, rider 165lbs = 514lbs = BIG DIFFERENCE IN PERFORMANCE with a 15% weight reduction. ( Im still the same old slow rider at 42 years old, same motors, and same 06 gsxrs, same amount of effort, the faster speed is just there. ) Weight makes a big difference in performance, period. I SPENT NOTHING BUT TIME (okay, $100 drill press, $80 grinder) lightening stock parts and removing unnecessary items from my bike, Sanding the gel coat off my bodywork, zip ties hold everything on the bike, drilling every bolt and grinding piles of metal shavings. so the cost is less tv time, less family time etc. (ask these guys from the fla region, they have seen my bikes and shook their heads in disbelief) I have spent countless hours riding my mountain bike and eating grapenuts and beef jerky. I had to laugh when some pro novice guys were responding to my post telling me I havent dedicated myself enough and if I did, I would be faster if I would do a little work on myself and the bike. I have lots of friends who race who are larger guys, and I hate to see them struggle with these issues, they do not all have the time or the real desire to make racing a lifestyle like I have, and I dont think they (or you) should have to make life all about racing, just to be fairly compeditive in CLUB racing events. All im asking for is the same rule the rest of the motorized racing comunity the world over has, a minimum weight. Its not me crying about 1098s, thats my personal wining peeve (im not scared of them, I can beat them, but its just not right either), this is my BIG beef with mc racing, (weight) and always has been.

[Over-ReActor]

Robby,

You wrote so long, you cramped my brain.

I also removed all the same heavy shit from my bike. So all things being equal, you are still 168 and I'm 220.  Put lead on your back.

I don't care what you real racers do. I want a recreational fat guy class. Over 40 is to hard. 

[hamurobby]

NO WAY, Im just going to eat again. I know rattling my can wont change things, but maybe one day the FIM will change, and it will trickle down. It would be good even for the smaller guys, A little muscle mass is a good thing.

I think a big guy class is a great idea, and it will go over huge. the largest problem I see, is fitting it into the tight ass schedule.

[George_Linhart]

Robby - it is funny, you want the rules to set right at your weight so others are compromised to give you "equality."  You also want to disqualify other bikes because you think they are superior to yours in terms of power and torque.  Basically, legislate "fairness" aroumd you at the expense of others.

I can see how this is great for you - but what about everybody else?

Tell you what, if you want this then you should start your own race series and see how many people show up.  I'll continue to race CCS as I actualy like the rulesof the series.


George

[Team Spalding]

ASRA Thunderbike is limited with rider, gear and bike. New rules this year. Ay Daytona they weighed us with full gear minus helmet and gloves. There is your class jump in it and race.

[123user]

Everybody here understands that weight is an issue.  My point is that this is club racing... we're racing for $5 dollar trophies.  If somebody wants to lose weight, they have an incentive... leveling the playing field = fatter racers = bigger leathers = more cows = more methane = global warming!

I'd love a fat guy class:  I propose a minimum weight of 220lbs, but we all have to ride hyosung 250's.  We could call it "The Turd on Turd Challenge"  It would be the last race of the day... on lap three it would be red flagged, and we'd all have to come in and eat a dozen hot wings, then we'd restart for 5 more laps... at the conclusion everyone would have to chug 5 beers... this would be the opportunity for slower riders to catch up!

This whole dialog is nonsense.  If you're fat and you think its slowing you down... lose weight, just don't be hurt when you find out that you're still slow.  I'm fat and slow, but there are people out there that are fat and fast, there are also people out there that are thin and slow. 

Oh, and one other thing.  NASCAR still sucks, DMG is still crooked, and I still think that the RC30 is the coolest bike ever made!

[Scotty Ryan]

I jumped into this thread right here without reading from the beginning - And then went back to the first page... WOW.....

I like the RC30 too - Actually I lean more toward the RC45 - But that's just cause I had a chance to ride one....

Figured I would contribute to the nonsense.

[123user]

Yup! the whole thread went backwards.  The RC-45 was the evolution of the RC30... back when ELF was cool.

Technically, the NR750 would be the coolest, but it was produced in such small numbers.  On the other hand,  the Norton Manx pretty much rocks too!

Now here's a topic, should the NR750 be allowed in HWSS? 

[funsizeracing]

  
I love this stuff!

[123user]

Sounds like you better start bulking up Becka!  Or else you'll have to wear a 150lb backpack to measure up to me!

[funsizeracing]

Can't I just add a passenger?

[123user]

You could just spend a couple of semesters in Rolla... that works for all the other girls!