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'Grid/Starts' etiquette question for the experts

Started by Speedballer347, February 23, 2003, 09:57:46 AM

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oh344ccs

Fast guys will go around, the worst thing you could do would be to change andything about your riding.  Starting slow will just end up causing crashes for people triing to get around you while looking at their tach.  I agree with 5bike.  just hold your lines, they can do whatever they have to. 8)

Speedballer347

#13
Thanks for the resonses so far guys.

Just to clarify, what I meant by 'lite-start' was NOT pulling away slowly @ the green flag...
What I meant by 'lite' was not going banzia into T1 rubbing & bumping people....but instead letting the experts pass me into T1 or T2 'IF' they show me the wheel (something I NEVER would do in AM) giving the winners a chance to get past me & do their thing 8)
After that, it's on!!! ;D ;)
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DanO966

Erik,

I'm in the same boat you're in.  I'm gonna give it my all.  I'm going for the best grid spot and the best start I can get.  
If they (the other experts, and the ones that should be there...lol) can go that fast, why can't I?  I always ask myself that question, what if Nicky Hayden was there in that exact turn?  He'd be going faster then you and the fast experts.  So like I said if they can go that fast why can't I?  imho
that's just the way that i look at it.  Just don't get in too deep cuz crashing sucks...lol
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Nothing accelerates your learning curve more than getting smoked by the really fast guys.  I loved the Team Challenge for this reason.  I could observe and try to emulate the best experts, something I didn't get to do much in amateur lightweight.  Ride hard.  Take note of the way the best pass you.  Remember these moves so you too can use them.  Chase those who pass you.  Makes you better.
D@mn.  I'm getting aroused just thinking about it.  Is it race season yet?
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Speedballer347

#16
QuoteI'm in the same boat you're in.  I'm gonna give it my all.  I'm going for the best grid spot and the best start I can get.  
Your on! 8)

I was really just concerned about holding up the winners, but if you and Mike are planning to go-for-it, count me in!
You and Mike (and a couple other guys) were the amateur-buddies I was planning on dicing with, so I guess if I don't go 110% from the start, you guys will be gone :o ....and I don't think either one of ya will be waiting for me ;D

(stolen from DanO) "Game On!" ;)




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Jeff

Really it depends.  If you get spooked by people passing you and/or being VERY close to you, start in the back.  If not, start in the front and let them pass you!

Just HOLD YOUR LINE! don't move all over the place trying to get out of the way!

When I'm on the grid, if I'm not in the front row, I line up and have a visual pic of how I'm getting around the people in front of me before I drop the hammer.  

If you're in front of me and I'm faster than you, I'll get around.  You're not a problem unless you start moving all over the place and become unpredictable.
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Speedballer347

#18
QuoteIf you get spooked by people passing you and/or being VERY close to you, start in the back
Obviously, you have never diced w/ me ;D ;)

Quote...Just HOLD YOUR LINE! don't move all over the place trying to get out of the way!
...I line up and have a visual pic of how I'm getting around the people in front of me before I drop the hammer.  
...You're not a problem unless you start moving all over the place and become unpredictable.
Like I said, I am not concerened about racing expert, I just wanted to know if it would be better to stay out of the top-guy's way at the start.  I was just trying to be thoughtful, not come off like an incompetent chicken :-/
I figured I am probably just fast & eratic (perhaps strange lines, brake points,  etc) enough to hold them up for a corner or two, and I don't want to do that.
But, it looks like my buddies are planning on pinning it at the start....so alas, I will be too :)

I'll still wind up finishing mid-pack though ::) ;D





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sdiver68

Nah, I'm starting from the back, so I suggest you just post-enter :)
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Speedballer347

#20
QuoteNah, I'm starting from the back, so I suggest you just post-enter :)
hmmmm ::) ;D

Travis King said I can ride on the back of his bike.  So, as long as I can hang on to my number-plate during the race.....I will finish right behind him :-*

Anything in the rules says this isn't legal? ;D






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chris_chops

QuoteExperts are no different than amateurs except for the color of there plates.  Would you consider gridding at the back of an amateur grid because the other riders were faster than you?  OF COURSE NOT.  Take the best grid you can and run the best race you can.  You might be surprised how fast you can go when you have someone fast to follow...
I second this motion.  Ride it like you stole it and hold your lines.  Prepare to go faster, cuz you will!
Matt

Super Dave

QuoteReally it depends.  If you get spooked by people passing you and/or being VERY close to you, start in the back.  If not, start in the front and let them pass you!

Just HOLD YOUR LINE! don't move all over the place trying to get out of the way!

When I'm on the grid, if I'm not in the front row, I line up and have a visual pic of how I'm getting around the people in front of me before I drop the hammer.  

If you're in front of me and I'm faster than you, I'll get around.  You're not a problem unless you start moving all over the place and become unpredictable.


I think this is good advice.  

I guess the alternate question should be, "Are you that good in holding up people?"  It there's a way around or under you, it will be found by a rider that IS faster.
Super Dave

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