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Removing the ignition key cylinder..

Started by G-reg, September 24, 2007, 11:41:14 AM

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G-reg

Anyone got any tips on how to remove the keyed ignition cylinder from the triple clamp on a honda RC51?  The bolts are some sort of tamper-proof design where you can tighten them but not loosen (the wrench backs itself out of the head of the bolt if I try to remove the bolts)..  They're recessed too far into a hole for me to get a dremel tool in there and make a slot/use a screwdriver.. 


Ideas?
--Greg
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Jeff

IF you haven't mangled them too bad yet, they are simple screws but have a weird head.  I believe you can get the right head at Sears, just take the triple with you.

HEAT the spots with a torch (mildly).  They're on with permanent lock-tite.

That's been the ticket for the 600's over the years anyhow...  And I don't see that they'd do anything too different for the arsey...
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I will tell you the fix for this in short order.  With upper skins removed.....

  Got a Dremmel?  Using the fiber cutting disk;
Make a single deep cut across the head of each tamper proof bolt.  NOW insert a healthy flat head screwdriver into slot, Vice- grips clamped to driver and turn. (Lefty lousy)  If your having a problem finding the jump, ask and yea shall receive :cheers:

As for heating this area.....would you burn tires in the fireplace? They dont use that much thread lock.  (kind of like bearing grease.)  I guess they figure this stuff is comming off as soon as it leaves the store. so why bother.
  A "do-dad switch" can be installed at the ignitions plug You will have to test meter that.  I cannot remember without going out and looking which two color wires are used.  It was very easy to find.  I mounted the switch to the clip-on's.  It was very small,hidden, and well protected by the intake.      
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proechel539

Smack the head with a center punch, drill it out and extract it with an extractor. Replace with a hex head bolt and call it a day.
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Woofentino Pugrossi

Do the cornerworkers a favor and leave it where it is. Sucks ass trying to pick up a bike thats leaking gas and has a hot electrical system and is sparking that you cant shut off because someone moved the ignition switch and you cant find it (kill switch only kills teh motor, not the main electrical power).
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tzracer

Quote from: Woofentino Pugrossi on October 29, 2007, 02:08:07 AM
Do the cornerworkers a favor and leave it where it is. Sucks ass trying to pick up a bike thats leaking gas and has a hot electrical system and is sparking that you cant shut off because someone moved the ignition switch and you cant find it (kill switch only kills teh motor, not the main electrical power).

Unless you wire the kill switch to shut off all the power.

But I guess you should know, being the expert at ass sucking and all.
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Jason748

Or just replace the key with a switch, in the same location, right Jeff...  :biggrin:
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Ridgeway

My kill switch cuts all power.  Seemed simpler that way.
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unforgivenracing

After switching out the stock ingnition with a two-wire togal switch it will usually act that way also "My kill switch cuts all power".
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Jeff

One thing to keep in mind... DO NOT SKIMP on your connections or the switch.  Buy a GOOD quality switch (figure around $10 if not more), get a dust-boot for it, solder all connections and then coat it with silicone.

If you don't, you'll get dust into it and end up with a bike dying at a time you don't want it to (like on the 2 board).  I speak from experience...

(Jason, keep an eye on that switch and if the dust boot wears, replace it immediately.  Don't dick around with it)
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Jason748

Quote from: Jeff on November 13, 2007, 12:34:06 PM
(Jason, keep an eye on that switch and if the dust boot wears, replace it immediately.  Don't dick around with it)

Already did.. I tore the boot at Road A this year.  Replaced it with a sealed hazardous location switch and threw a new boot over it.
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