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Started by Sig, July 14, 2007, 01:51:11 PM

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Ducmarc

maybe next year they will remember all the fuss about Iowa and change venues although bikes piggie back with the cars so it may be up to the car guys

tzracer

I watched the Rolex race from Iowa. They had an on board of a lap of the track. The track looked much more dangerous than Gateway. The problem was not just the oval. The track is quite small with a garage area and a track sharing the infield. Did not appear to have very much runoff room. MotoST used no bales of airfence on the oval. From what I saw, I would not race there.
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Quote from: Noidly1 on July 15, 2007, 12:02:02 AM
Any track can be safe or unsafe.
The biggest probs are the inexperienced street riders going over their abilities trying to make a race out of a track day.
If you ride SMART, you can handle any situation or track.

So are you saying Kracget and Higbee are inexperienced DUMB street riders riding over their head. I know Kracget personally and know of Higbee from my hometown and those 2 guys probably have more experience together than the rest of the field in that race other than Filice and Springsteen.
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For those of you who don't know me - i was brian's teammate for the pas t two weekends. I just got off the phone with Steve and Brian had just woke up and was pissed saying that he wasn't  going fast enough cause Filece was starting to gap him. Steve says he his normal self - just doesn't remember the actual crash.
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PJ721

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Scotty727,

thanks for the update on Brian...great to hear he's doing ok.

anyone have any info on Shawn?

also...everyone please remember we have 2 fellow racers that went down hard......that's where our focus should be - make sure they are ok - and if needed - to be there for them how ever we can.

Some know Brian and Shawn much better than I or most of us do...but from watching them race in CCS & Moto-ST they are 2 of the top riders out there. My thoughts go out to both of them for a speedy recovery.

after that....then we can figure out Iowa Speedway and what can be done to get it set up to be safer - and if not - we can all make up our own minds to run there or not.


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spyderchick

Shawn has a broken leg, broken pelvis, dislocated shoulder and possible broken collar bone. He's alert, but on meds, due for release later this week.

Great news about Brian.
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PJ721

has there been any kind of fund set up for Shawn? I know we have the Red Flag Fund....can we donate through that and it go directly to him?

I'm sure we could all chip in and help out...with injuries that severe he's going to need all the help he can.
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mike_rbm

Quote from: 123user on July 14, 2007, 11:20:05 PM
So... Parriott tries to do the right thing, and MotoST fines him?  Now two riders are critically injured?      Its obvious that MotoST is putting itself before the safety of its riders.  

CCS doesn't need to be affiliated with an organization like that!!!

+1 ! !!!

Quote from: Noidly1 on July 15, 2007, 12:47:04 AM
True.

But the same goes for a race as the street. You don't fly through the neigborhood do ya?

If it is TIGHT, SLOW DOWN.

Just because you are in a race does not nessisarily mean you have to go fast Everywere on the track.

No. But you should be able to go as fast as you and your bike are able to without having to worry about a WALL!


Quote from: Noidly1 on July 15, 2007, 09:07:03 PM
Dude;
You can "What-if" everything to Death.

If life scares you that much, stay in bed...

Oh BTW. Lay on your back, I don't want you to die of "SIDS"...

Not to be mean  but, damn... Get over it. You can Not control Everything in life, Just live it and be HAPPY.

What?! You're right. Don't over-think something like racing a 400lb. machine at 100mph plus speeds with a little bit of plastic and leather for protection.
Noidly, most of your posts are pretty dumb. Not as dumb as the leader of Moto-ST who was telling the riders to "deal with it." I'm not sure if that was Edmondson or who but AMA has nothing to be concerned about. This organization is run equally as bad! Lol!

Noidly1

Quote from: mike_rbm on July 16, 2007, 12:56:01 PM
You should be able to go as fast as you and your bike are able to without having to worry about a WALL!

I guess that leaves Road Atlanta Out...
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Jeff

Quote from: PJ721 on July 16, 2007, 12:53:31 PM
has there been any kind of fund set up for Shawn? I know we have the Red Flag Fund....can we donate through that and it go directly to him?

You can donate directly to him through us as follows:

Check/Money Order to:
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If you state that you wish your donation to go directly to any person, 100% of those funds (less CC processing fees or paypal fees) will go directly to that person until their needs are met.

Please be aware that any NAMED DONATION (i.e., "this donation is for Shawn Higbee") may not be tax deductable per new IRS guidelines.  Check with your tax professional to be sure.

We are able to and prepared to help these guys.  Our recent auction has given us a pretty solid base which we can use to help, so we will be helping them from the general fund.  Of course, the more we get the more we can do.

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Jeff

Quote from: Noidly1 on July 16, 2007, 02:08:13 PM
I guess that leaves Road Atlanta Out...

and Road America, Gateway, Topeka, Brainerd, and many many other tracks...

True, some tracks ARE safer for motorcycles than others.  Race orgs have to make this determination, and riders also need to calculate their own level of risk.  There are tracks which I personally will not race because the level of risk is higher than I can assume.  People need to make that decision themselves.
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Quote from: Woofentino Pugrossi on July 15, 2007, 11:10:02 PM
When CCE owned CCS they had the funds to advertise it. They just wouldnt. But yet they'd advertise their motocross events and monster truck events on their radio stations every weekend.
CCS races are still sportsman events.  The attitude is that they are only for the entrant, not the spectator.  The return on investing in CCS isn't there to see a real return.  Arenacross and monster trucks...spectator driven.
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