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Started by unforgivenracing, February 12, 2003, 12:50:05 PM

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unforgivenracing

Quote    Why not get info on how to contact Bill from CCS? I would imagine you would have alot better luck if you contacted him before racing starts and probe his brain before all the madness of the 1st race weekend for us Midwesterners.
UAH,  ::)was that the phone ringing dear? >:(
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     I personally have never had a bad experience when calling CCS on the phone, and they have always answered my questions immediately if possible or called me back. They were very helpful when I was trying to get a hold of another racer and didn't have a way to contact him. They got me the info I needed right away.
     I will agree that E-mail is a different story though. I have never gotten a response from them thru e-mail before.
     Writing to them has worked for me also. Several years ago I wrote a letter to CCS complaining of a number plate rule that was going into affect. This rule was going to force all of us to mount a flat number plate to the sides of our bikes if our tail sections were not flat. They said that the corner workers were having trouble reading SOME of the plates during races. I argued that a small number of racers were ruining it for everyone and that the number plates would also provide an unprofessional look to our bikes. I suggested that the corner workers should identify individual bikes that were hard to read and have tech tell the offender that they could complete the event, but would have to fix the problem before racing another event.
     I don't know if other people also contacted CCS about this, but a few weeks later all CCS racers recieved a notice of this change to identify individual bikes instead of penalizing all the racers (my notice also had my original letter included and some of my statements were used word for word on the CCS notice).
     These are my personal experiences so far and may not be like yours in dealing with CCS.
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Dawn

Quote    Why not get info on how to contact Bill from CCS? I would imagine you would have alot better luck if you contacted him before racing starts and probe his brain before all the madness of the 1st race weekend for us Midwesterners.

Good idea.  I do know how to contact Bill already, but I would like to talk to some of my mentors before I contact him.  Give me a few days to work on this.

Dawn   :)

Super Dave

There are a good number that have problems contacting CCS.  This board has been good for trying to get information from the racer for racers.  

CCE has left CCS understaffed, period.  What they have three people working in Texas for an organization that is nation wide?

The trick is that only some are let in on the processes that be.  The rest are left out to weather what ever problems arise from those ideas.  Some are good, some are just wrong...the fuel rules will always be my immediate example.
Super Dave

spyderchick

I wrote to Mr. Elloit on this very subject on Tuesday. Bill Ferman (sic?) is a fair guy, but it is not in his current job description to handle issues in this manor. If we have questions he cannot answer, he has repeated instructed us in riders meetings to contact the main office in Ft. Worth by e-mail or phone.

I made the suggestion that we have either a staff member from each region, or a racer representative to handle some of the load. His reply was brief and I have no idea as to his thoughts on this subject.

Personally, I'd like to see CCS deal with all outstanding issues before the race season goes too much further. This is an important issue that could potentially solve some problems. With the past in it's place, we can all enjoy the 2003 race season.
Alexa Krueger
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Do or do not, there is no "try".

unforgivenracing

Would you then agree that a Rep. is needed for each reagion to present issues to the Staffers in Ft Worth TX.  :o It sounds like perhaps a YES ;D
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chris_chops

You said his reply was breif, what did he say about representation of riders?

spyderchick

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He indicated that he took in all the points I wrote about. He did not agree nor did he disagree with what I wrote. He had no comment on any particular point. Personally, I hope he thinks very carefully about what I had to say, which dealt mostly with communications issues.

I will add that I wrote him a very detailed letter, and I tried to keep emotion out of it. I added some thoughts about improving communication between CCS and racers. Will there be any change? Let's hope for the best.
Alexa Krueger
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chris_chops


K3 Chris Onwiler

QuoteI will add that I wrote him a very detailed letter, and I tried to keep emotion out of it.

Lex, you're such a sweetie, but I wouldn't want to mess with you when you're angry...  I'd probably go off and look for a grizzly bear cub to steal instead! ;)
The frame was snapped, the #3 rod was dangling from a hole in the cases, and what was left had been consumed by fire.  I said, "Hey, we've got all night!"
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spyderchick

Chris. you are right on the mark. ;D But I haven't been really angry for a very long time. It's a waste of energy. Just don't mees with people I love, I might have to show my claws.    :o
Alexa Krueger
Spyder Leatherworks
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www.spyderleatherworks.com
www.redflagfund.org
Do or do not, there is no "try".