Single Rear # Plate

[Mongo]

Really hard for them to be positive who cut the track etc when the number is on top. 

[Team_Serpent]

Really hard for them to be positive who cut the track etc when the number is on top. 

Isn't that one of the reasons why we have radio communication between corner workers?

I'm sure there are times when the corner worker can't see the number clearly even now, using the current display method. 

I mean, we could all think of a reason why the change shouldn't be adopted and it's always easy to criticize change.

Maybe there are some positives with this new change to rear number display?

[spyderchick]

Spotting numbers is always difficult. Some corners you are not on an elevated platform, so the side panel #s make it at least a bit easier for a CW to spot the correct rider, especially if there are similar bikes through the turn.

It's important to remember that the numbers are not there for the rider, but to allow officials and workers to do their job effectively. As a rider, yes, I'd love to have one # plate on the back, but if the placement on either side of the bike allows workers to make accurate calls, I'm good with that. It would suck for two blue bikes to go through the same turn, but the wrong rider gets penalized because the CW could not ascertain rider numbers correctly.   

[Mongo]

Isn't that one of the reasons why we have radio communication between corner workers?

I'm sure there are times when the corner worker can't see the number clearly even now, using the current display method. 

I mean, we could all think of a reason why the change shouldn't be adopted and it's always easy to criticize change.

Maybe there are some positives with this new change to rear number display?

Bike blows the chicane at Daytona, even if the next corner is over by pit in you can't guarantee the bikes are in the same order.  So you get a radio call about the blue and white GSXR1k, now which one is it?  Expecially if you have a few of them in a row. 

The only positive change is they look cool from an overhead tv or still shot.  That's it from all the input at Dyatona where they were used.

[Team_Serpent]

Bike blows the chicane at Daytona, even if the next corner is over by pit in you can't guarantee the bikes are in the same order.  So you get a radio call about the blue and white GSXR1k, now which one is it?  Especially if you have a few of them in a row.

Agreed, but as I said, it could happen even now with our current display rules.  Here's why -

Since you use the GSXR in your expample let's take a look at this pic http://webhosting.web.com/imagelib/sitebuilder/misc/show_image.html?linkedwidth=560&linkpath=http://www.scooterphoto.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/IMG_037019Explusone1.jpg&target=tlx_pic5gu5.

Now, I'm not as familiar with the bike as you probably are but from looking at this picture it doesn't look like the rear number would be easily visible from the side.  The tail section seems really flat on top.  On my R6 the numbers on the sides of the tail can be seen easily because the tail section has a better area for display.

All this discussion is really moot if the corner workers and officials feel they could see the majority of bikes better with tail side display, and since you are an official of some capacity I'll just be quite and go away now 

Personally it's not that big of a deal either way, I'll do whatever the rules are, was just trying to get any positive feedback that might be out there as everyone was being so negative towards the change, maybe there are no positives  8)

Just out of curiosity, why are you posting on the CCS Rules and Reg forum?  I thought you had your own sandbox to play in, why do you care about what goes on here?

   

[Super Dave]

I'm on the fence on all this.  Number display opportunities suck on current bikes.  I don't see it getting better.  We were required to have 8" numbers front and rear.  Now, those numbers have been allowed to become smaller.  At one time, the FIM used to require specific colors for specific classes.  That's gone too. 

Jason, yeah, I have a hard time seeing the side/rear numbers on the current GSXR's. 

There was a time when one was required to have their number on their leathers. 

I don't know what the answer is.

As for Mongo...he always brings a different perspective.

[Mongo]

We're looking at changing the rules to get the numbers better given the shape of the newer bikes without going to a numberplate.  I agree that both sides isn't great but it's still better than on top. 

I'm here because racing is what I do and I'll take ideas on making it better wherever I can find them.  Just like Eric posts on our board.

[Super Dave]

Which way are you going with plate rules? 

[Sobottka]

what about number display on the lower faring ala toseland?

[Team_Serpent]

what about number display on the lower faring ala tosland?

interesting idea but the upper and lower are prime realestate as far as sponsors go.

[Super Dave]

Would the tail offer more opportunities?  It's wasn't so long ago (LOL!) in my racing life that number plates were on the sides of the fairings.


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[Super Dave]

Currently, CCS rules wouldn't allow these kinds of plates.  They did at one time.  Can't say when that changed though.