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Started by tstruyk, March 22, 2007, 10:57:09 AM

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Super Dave

Costs continue to escalate.

I bet they announce they are adding the USGPRU to most of the 2008 season events before August.
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cleezmo

Glad to see they are FINALLY pulling that class!!

Why they ever had 2 classes for each displacement is beyond me....


Super Dave

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History has been that way.  Superbike was generally 750's and they had 750 Supersport.  Both evolved into 1000 classes.

And, hey, didn't I read an article you wrote for something?
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Monkey_Star

Quote from: Super Dave on March 22, 2007, 01:25:24 PM
Costs continue to escalate.

I bet they announce they are adding the USGPRU to most of the 2008 season events before August.

Could we see the return of 125's in AMA? Too bad 250 is unlikely.

Super Dave

I don't think the 125's have ever been as part of an official AMA class ever.  Exhibition, etc., yeah, but never as official. 

I can see where the AMA might want to get into the pockets of the people that seem to be very involved in putting the young kids on 125's, etc.  All that money seems to be going a long way.  Red Bull Cup stuff, etc.  It might be interesting too.  It was kind of cool when the AMA had the 125 exhibition races in 1994.
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Monkey_Star

yeah you're right. It was exhibition races. I remember seeing Masahiro Lizuka and thinking that he couldn't be a racer as he looked just like my high school chemistry teacher. :)

weggieman

I know, I know!!!! A twins endurance series.......................

fourandsix

It's about time and the last thing we need at the AMA level is the twins. The AMA should just keep the factory boys out of 600 Supersport .

JBraun

I think it sucks. You're forcing privateers into the 600 classes. Not everyone wants to race a 600.

So now the fast privateers that want to prove something have to bring their 1000cc "supersport" bike and run it against $300,000 superbikes, provided they have a superbike license to begin with.

The AMA makes it hard enough for even the most well funded privateers to be competitive, this is just another step in the wrong direction.

Look at guys like Rob Jensen, Jeremy Toye, Jack Pfeifer. They could all podium in superstock if you put them on factory equipment, but they don't even race AMA because it's a waste of their money. Why bring a knife to a gun fight??

Quote from: fourandsix on March 22, 2007, 07:53:05 PM
The AMA should just keep the factory boys out of 600 Supersport .

Why? So it can be an undercard race that no one cares about? Kick the factories out of supersport and it would be ASRA with more traveling.

And what is a "factory" team? What about  Attack Kawasaki, Jordan Suzuki, Erion Honda? They're all independently run, factory supported teams like yours.  Are they allowed?

Maybe I'm stupid, but the solution seems simple, tighten up the rules to stop the factories from building supersport/superstock bikes that would cost a privateer $50,000 to duplicate. The best riders would still win, but the racing would be much closer.
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fourandsix

No one is forcing anyone to do anything. There are not that many people that can ride a 1000 to it's potential anyway. I see it all the time at the races , in Superstock the entries are down due to the cost of running a 1000. The 600 class is a perfect way to enter AMA competition. Our riders are not paid and only recive minimal support from Suzuki . I was talking about riders directly paid by the factories. I don't know where there are any $50,000 600 supersport bikes. You can build a competitive 600 for about $20,000 including the price of the bike. The only problem you have is finding someone that can actually ride one and the funds to maintain for the rest of the year and travel to all the events. For years everyone cries that the AMA should change so the upcoming riders can showcase their talent and get a dream ride on a factory team. Well they have started to move in that direction by getting rid of one class. The less money the factory teams spend on a class translates into more money spent elswhere in the form of racing. It can mean more supported teams such as us , more contingencey at the local racers who knows. I am sorry if you think the AMA ruined anyones careers by not having 1000's. Jensen is not interested in AMA , he makes a bunch more money cheerypicking the local guys.