Look at what's legal in CCS MWSS

[251am]

  The RRW article by Kenny Noyes talks about the AMA Superstock "shock". He had been figuring a little motorwork would have put them into the top 10. He forgot to look at the laptimes, and compare, the times being put down between Superbike and Superstock. They're pretty close together.

  It's in the 3rd paragraph on page 74 where he is apologetically explaining the situation he got his team into, having not further researched the predicament he'd put them in, which was nowhere near winning.

  I know that's a bit of a threadjack from the CCS issue, but a bit of a parallel.

  I guess from the pic above it is hard to tell if there is really a cooling advantage from the bolt-on fin, IE; Is it actually a cooling benefit or is it more of a drag on air? Be interesting to take a laser thermo reading of 2 R6s front discs after a race, one with one w/o the fins. IF you could find racers with comparative breaking styles....          

[cold]

From the picture, it looks as if the "air duct" is doing more to protect the caliper than direct fresh air in. (thats just what it looks like from the picture and reading the angles of the bends....however, pics that are caliper level from straight ahead could tell a different story)

[Garywc]

I guess it could be protecting the caliper . but do they really get damaged?
if it is on an angle to divert air to the rotor behind the caliper it will cool the rotor. cooling the caliper wouldn't be easy to do because aluminum holds heat really well. but cooling the rotor might not be so bad.  but to what extent you wouldn't know with out testing it.
and like some one else mentioned has anyone asked the rider what his thoughts were going into this idea?

[Gixxerblade]

Funny thing is in WERA it would not be allowed and I think thats what aaronson is getting at. More truer to the Supersport's intent.

[Super Dave]

Yeah, I agree in many ways.

CCS is pretty liberal on "supersport".  WERA used to have production.

I never thought that Supersport meant that you could use a quick shifter.  AMA has that.  Massive engine management from replacement ECU's.  The AMA has that. 

But rules are rules. 

I guess the only rule that was broken that an additional "fairing" was made out of aluminum rather than some kind of fiberglass materal? 

[Speedballer347]

...DQ him for using aluminium instead of plastic,carbon fiber or fiber glass which he stated would have been legal

imho the best rider won that race ..... 2nd MWSS Expert aint too shabby either.  I wish I could be that shabby someday.
I can't see taking away someone's hard earned victory over something like this.
I can understand if ALL air-ducts were illegal, but the material of them, a material with no benefit what so ever?

I remember when my bike's steering head busted apart and we welded it back together....then we were visited by a competitor & his crew (rule book in hand) on their way to find Elliott, yelling about my bike being illegal....I had "added metal to the frame".  After all of the laughter errupted from the dozen-or-so people standing around, they 'dropped' the "protest" idea and walked back to their pits.
Unbelievable.  I lost all competitor-respect for that rider and his crew (also racers) that day.


More importantly though, the squared and sharp edges of that aluminum bracket looks pretty obtuse.  I wouldn't want to be slammed by it in a crash or even a hard contact bump.
If that aluminum bracket would be rulebooked in as 'legal', would a thicker/stiffer/more-dangerous peice of aluminum also be legal.  Would a (really dangerous) steel scoop then be legal?  What if it rattled loose, and a SHARP & heavy steel scoop bounced down the track into an oncomming rider's neck at a buck-fifty?
Rounded metal is one thing, but that metal scoop on a racebike doesn't look like a good idea to me.

[r1owner]

I remember when my bike's steering head busted apart and we welded it back together....then we were visited by a competitor & his crew (rule book in hand) on their way to find Elliott, yelling about my bike being illegal....I had "added metal to the frame".  After all of the laughter errupted from the dozen-or-so people standing around, they 'dropped' the "protest" idea and walked back to their pits.
Unbelievable.  I lost all competitor-respect for that rider and his crew (also racers) that day.

LOL!  That's rich!  Material added.... ROFLMAO!

More importantly though, the squared and sharp edges of that aluminum bracket looks pretty obtuse.  I wouldn't want to be slammed by it in a crash or even a hard contact bump.
If that aluminum bracket would be rulebooked in as 'legal', would a thicker/stiffer/more-dangerous peice of aluminum also be legal.  Would steel then be legal?  What if it rattled loose, and a peice of corner'ed-steel bounced down the track into an oncomming rider's neck at a buck-fifty?
Rounded metal is one thing, but cornered metal on a racebike doesn't sound like a good idea to me.

+1

You racing this year?

[Speedballer347]

LOL!  That's rich!  Material added.... ROFLMAO!

I'll tell ya who it was when I see you .... you're gonna poop 

We are going to campaign two bikes under our endurance pit 
Todd Bone'shaker' & Tim are riding my bike.  Kenny 9-fingers (cause he left a finger at Putnam    ) and DaniJaja (Wolf44) are riding Ken's SV.

[Super_KC124]

CCS's LWss rules are crazy. Just look at Ed's SV. Carbon fiber subframe, ram air, total loss charging system. Not that I would ever be as fast as him, it would be nice to try on equal equipment. That being said, Ed did build his bike within the rules.   

[Sobottka]

imho the best rider won that race ..... I can't see taking away someone's hard earned victory over something like this.

+1... protest  go faster next time!

[gqnugget]

That is because Kevin will make up the rules, change them, and give special treatment as he sees fit.  Kinda sounds like how Iraq was.  Even change final results when he feels the need after its been posted (with no protest filed).

[JBraun]

I'm really glad I read this. Now I have the secret to club racing domination.

I'm building some aluminum brake ducts, which will make me so fast that I'll win everything, and there's nothing anyone can do about it.