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What Made Buell Illegal

Started by grasshopper, February 21, 2006, 10:54:41 AM

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grasshopper

Does anyone know why the new Buell race only machine was (I know it is now legal) made illegal?

What specs made it illegal?

Does anyone have a link to the exact rules for the AMA formula Extreme?

Thanks


Super Dave

Nothing made it illegal.

It's a bike, and it can be modified.  Teams have done the things that Buell offered in a turn key package.

If you go find AMA Pro Racing, you should be able to find the RR rules.  FX is the most open.  And it is more open for air cooled twins.  
Super Dave

grasshopper

So why was it considered Illegal at a point in time? Why was that rumor started? What's the deal with that?


scottg22

Maybe its me... but for all those teams concerned (Honda) about the Buell in FX....    they should be more worried about what Disalvo and the new R6 is about to do to them.


grasshopper

Quotewho cares!


I DO!!

It's Winter, I'm bored!!

Super Dave

I'm with Scotty on that one.

Was never illegal.  But someone in Honda told Erion to cry about it, as though Honda hasn't produced factory specials in the past...

Super Dave

grasshopper

Was I just hallucinating or was there not articles circling around a month or so ago about how it was illegal?

Was there any proof or hard facts on why people were saying it was illegal?

Or was it just a whole bunch of bull crap?

And why just recently are there articles floating around saying is now legal, saying before it was illegal.

Is this just a political stunt to get people noticing Buell?

grasshopper

(the sound of crickets chirping)

Super Dave

Buell presented the idea and concept to Merrill Vanderslice, Director of Competition for the AMA some time ago.  They developed and produced a bike, with the promise of a number that would be available.  Given those issues, it pretty much fit the class rules.  

There were cries of foul, but, honestly, there isn't a way a bike can be illegal unless it's raced, right?  It has not been raced, but Buell and company carefully looked at the rules and the modifications that they and other teams had made within the rules during racing with the AMA, CCS, etc.

There was never a time when it was illegal.  But there was so much focus brought to the product, the XBRR, by the original complaining that was started by Erion.

Erion doesn't make the rules.  

Air cooled twins have liberal rules in the classes they run in AMA, CCS, etc.  I didn't see where it was outside the rules.  

Really, Erion helped Buell.  And like Scotty said, he should focus on doing what he needs to do to beat DiSalvo or some other teams.  Get back in the shop and focus.
Super Dave

cb186

QuoteBuell presented the idea and concept to Merrill Vanderslice, Director of Competition for the AMA some time ago.  They developed and produced a bike, with the promise of a number that would be available.  Given those issues, it pretty much fit the class rules.  

There were cries of foul, but, honestly, there isn't a way a bike can be illegal unless it's raced, right?  It has not been raced, but Buell and company carefully looked at the rules and the modifications that they and other teams had made within the rules during racing with the AMA, CCS, etc.

There was never a time when it was illegal.  But there was so much focus brought to the product, the XBRR, by the original complaining that was started by Erion.

Erion doesn't make the rules.  

Air cooled twins have liberal rules in the classes they run in AMA, CCS, etc.  I didn't see where it was outside the rules.  

Really, Erion helped Buell.  And like Scotty said, he should focus on doing what he needs to do to beat DiSalvo or some other teams.  Get back in the shop and focus.

techically, the XBRR never started out as a streetbike(Joe Blow can't got to a dealership, purchase a XBRR and drive it home) so it can't be a SuperSport bike, so thusly it does not fit into FX.
 at least this is how i see. it.
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