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Suzy

Petition Speed TV
« on: January 25, 2006, 05:04:19 am »
About time, we need a channel dedicated to just motorbikes, or more programming for it.

Petition, Please participate!

Thanks!!!
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Re: Petition Speed TV
« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2006, 05:17:05 am »
Although I agree with the movement, this isn`t going to do a thing...... :-[
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Suzy

Re: Petition Speed TV
« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2006, 05:27:08 am »
That's the attitude that will get us less time. The more people sign this petition, they will see the market for it and expand it.
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Re: Petition Speed TV
« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2006, 06:04:42 am »
Money is the market.

Who's going to advertise?  Suzuki?

A show of support would be good.
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Re: Petition Speed TV
« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2006, 06:48:42 am »
That's a pretty old petition. They cover F1 extensively, also have kept the Rally racing, they play virtually all M/C events of any note, (MotoGP, WSBK and AMA) along with a bunch of motoX events. They did lose Dakar to OLN, but I don't think that it got a very large viewership.

While I think it's important to let Speed know that we want more programming, Dave is right that the $$$ have got to be there for them to purchase the rights, particularly in regards to FIA(Formula 1) and FIM (MotoGP) events.

I remember 10 years ago when you were lucky to get a synopsis of the weeks events on MotoWorld (ESPN).

And yes, while some events are not same day, or even live, that's not goping to happen. Why? Stick and ball sports (both collegiate and national teams) are heavily wagered on in Las Vegas and around the country. These are money makers for more than just the networks that carry them.

No easy answers, but we are fortunate to have the air time.  
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Re: Petition Speed TV
« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2006, 07:39:34 am »
I love Suzy's enthusiasm ;)!
Petitioning the Media to make space for motorsports; let alone the motorcycle sporting is like asking your dog to bake a cake.
The BIGGEST reason NASCAR is dominating TV airtime is simple. Just look at the size of the advertisment board.
The ONLY time you get to see a sponsors name or even mention of it in our sport, is at the podium, for a brief minute or two.
Advertising brings in the $$ to get things moving with the media. Until we find a way to carry big signs for our sponsors around while we race; you won't get to see much in the way of our sport on ESPN or SPEEDVISION.
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Re: Petition Speed TV
« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2006, 07:59:21 am »
Anyone see Two Wheel Tuesday yesterday?

They had an interview with sports agent who was promoting Supercross racers. If you looked, you could get some subtle clues as to how he was getting the deals for his clients and bring fresh $$ into the sport.

He even had a book of rendered drawings showing potential sponsors what their logos would look like splashed across the rigs. This is how we will bring dollars into the sport, with potential for growth and new markets/audiences.  
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Suzy

Re: Petition Speed TV
« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2006, 08:42:47 am »
You may be right Alexa, may well be an old petition, but the cause that it died in the first place is that it did not get out enough to sign, Mike Davis is not anyone I know, but I am with his cause and if I can help him in anyway, I will.  ;D
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Re: Petition Speed TV
« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2006, 08:58:13 am »
I have to admit, I don't get all the SPEED haters out there. Yes, they play 14 hours of NASCRAP a day. Yes, we don't get all the races same day or live. Yes, Texas Hardtails gets more plugging than any REAL motorcycle programming.

BUT, like Alexa pointed out, 10 years ago we had virtually NO roadracing on TV. The odd 1:00am ESPN2 broadcast of a GP race, the occassional AMA national on American Sports Cavalcade on TNN (anyone remember that?), and that was it. I remember scouring the TV guide in college, trying to find the odd race broadcast to set my VCR...

Now we have every MotoGP and 250 race, every WSBK, every AMA race for your Tivo'ing pleasure, yet some people still complain.

The bottom line, like so many have said, is $$. NASCRAP has 100,000 fans at a race - try and find more than 10,000 at any AMA race (excluding the MotoGP Laguna round). The entire car says TIDE or VIAGRA or DUPONT - good luck catching the Napster logo on Zemke's helmet at speed.

More fans = more $$ = more airtime. I do my best to tell all non-moto people about how great watching racing is, how it's the best sport, and I've gotten some to come out to club races and such. But I seriously doubt a petition to SPEED is gonna get same-day broadcast of every race. There just aren't enough of us out there. Not trying to be negative, just trying to be realistic...
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ecumike

Re: Petition Speed TV
« Reply #9 on: January 25, 2006, 09:11:42 am »
What does 'more' roadracing mean?... don't they show most of the races by now? whether it's on Sat/Sun, or Tues.. hell they even show the 125 motoGP races sometimes.

Yes, instead of b1tching... maybe if everyone who signs that dumb petition donates $50 or some amount.. you can all pay for some ad spots that will allow them to run more races/air time, instead of running car shows where the other ad clients are wanting to advertise.

Instead of complaining (which is what this petition is), come up with a possible solution.  A solution is to pay for advertising during the races that you want to see that they aren't airing.
« Last Edit: January 25, 2006, 09:13:37 am by ecumike »
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Re: Petition Speed TV
« Reply #10 on: January 25, 2006, 10:43:06 am »
I have to disagree. Generally speaking; there has been more coverage on the "network" stations on motorcycle events (not excluding news coverage) than on the "SPEED"channel in the last 10 years as you said.
Speed has struggled to obtain it's contract from NASCAR and was pulled out of the frying pan just in time.
Advertising on "RIGS"? Maybe thay can do parade laps so the sponsors get their repetitions in during the program and satisfy the shareholders. Don't make the comparison of "ArenaCross to Roadracing, a way different venue altogether. Take for instance CCE and Supercross or whatever they called it.
Don't get me wrong here, I reaaly would like to see more motorcyle races and all that goes with it on any channel. I just think it isn't going to happen until there is a way to carry a billboard on a racer's back.
BTW: ESPN and whatever channels carried a race at weird hours, is due to a time slot that was not taken by BIG advertisers (on tuesday),Point in fact.
I already pay (and you probably also) $50 to view what I want, just don't get quite satisfied on the M/C racing! ECUmike: $50 or some amount is just going to compound the problem by their own greed.
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Snarky

Re: Petition Speed TV
« Reply #11 on: January 25, 2006, 10:47:10 am »
Does anybody remember the old TNN (Nashville Network) back in the mid-late 80's?

I seem to recall seeing more than a few WSB/AMA/GP races, and not at 3 a.m., either.
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