Consistency...

[EX#996]

And posting PM's publicly on the message board (or threatening to do so) is just not cool.

I totally agree, however, even after I stated my position and why it was done, Dave would not let the issue go.  He chose to bring it up in the public forum.  That being the case, the PM's he sent regarding this issue and the root cause for it should be public also.

I chose not to respond to the issue any longer, but then was presented with this thread.  Personally, I think it's a waste of my time.  However, I took on the responsibility of moderator and I care about all on this board.  I will continue to moderate as I have in the past.

I apologise to everyone for this situation that has been created between Dave and myself.  Hopefully he will agree with me and allow it to end quietly.

Dawn

[251am]

  Sorry, I misunderstod. I read Dave's beef to be that goods and services for sale should be in the classifieds section, and that some services listed under General section were being moved and some were not.  

[EX#996]

 Sorry, I misunderstod. I read Dave's beef to be that goods and services for sale should be in the classifieds section, and that some services listed under General section were being moved and some were not.  

Yeah, I screwed up.  I didn't tell Dave the 'real' reason for moving the thread because I didn't feel like dealing with the recoil that I knew I was going to receive from him.  I guess I was going to get it no matter what.  

Live and learn....

Now back to your regular scheduled programming.   ;D

Dawn   ;)

[Super Dave]

Still doesn't change anything...

STT posted something, and you moved it to Classified.

Track Addix posted something, and you moved it to Classified because I'm ranting.

Which one do you want?

Ranting or because they are making an effort to make money?

NESBA is non profit...per se, so, what do you do there?

We've got people selling VP here, a contingency sponsor in CCS, but the dealer is making a profit on the product.  

I don't see that any of these should be in Classified.

If they do, then move all the race reports to classified too.  That's "making money" in the form of sponsorship, which is still income for my books.

I may not agree with all the track day programs, nor do I endorce them, etc.  However, I think it's reasonable to allow them to post with out getting buried under the classified section.  Posters use those opportunities to answer questions and get out information about the track day, etc.  

What do you do with the photographers that charge for pictures?

CCS is part of CCE which IS a company looking to make a profit.  Should their posts be moved to Classified too?

If we're cleaning up the board, we should move jokes to the test section or get Shawn to build an "OPEN" section.

Your court...

[extrakt0r]

If they do, then move all the race reports to classified too.  That's "making money" in the form of sponsorship, which is still income

HEY! I am proud to say that I don't have one single sponser! I fit all my own bills and don't even take contengency money. So don't say I post my Race Reports for sponsership money  

 ;D ;D

(This is an attempt to be funny :P Please don't ban me )
 ;D

[Dawn]

Dave you can continue blog this all you want.....

I'm no longer going to respond to this issue.  Feel free to contact Shawn if you so desire.

Dawn

[251am]

  Wouldn't this be a great time for a piece of rhubarb pie? Blackcap berries perhaps? The wife and I lucked out as there is a beautiful spot west of town where we can walk the dog in the woods, off a leash, next to a river. Earlier this spring a young pair of eagles built a HUGE nest. The babies are just starting to get their lungs and SQUEEAK pretty noisily now. Anyway, on the sides of the trail there are lots of blackcap bushes. So far we've gone berry picking 3 times that yielded a couple pies and about 6 lbs. of berries in the fridge for making jam and using for ice cream toppings. The woods smell like summer. The river's low from not much rain. What's my point? How important is this issue of moving stuff around from one area to the next? I go in for heart surgery next week on the 20th; I know you don't have a heart condition yet, Dave, but just how important is this in the overall scheme of things? In the Big picture? About as important as a couple guys from Pennsylvania gouging people on generators, right? ;)  

[Super Dave]

LOL...generators...

Hey, if someone can't post information and someone else can post information...

Probably better margin in photography than there is in racing schools.  But if someone posted a racing school or a track day post...then it would be moved to Classified.

But a photographer can post.

I think they both should.

And I think someone should be able to post information about their success or hardship.  And I think if you sell VP or Power Mist and you're gonna or not gonna be somewhere, I think that belongs also in General.

I really just disagree here, and, until now, I have refused to move things that have been moved by you, Dawn.

But...."Dave would not let the issue go.  He chose to bring it up in the public forum.  That being the case, the PM's he sent regarding this issue and the root cause for it should be public also.
 
I chose not to respond to the issue any longer,"

Since you chose not to respond to me, you closed any communication.

What consistency is there in it?

[Super Dave]

I have not posted any PM's.

 I didn't tell Dave the 'real' reason

We're all adults here, right?

counterpart

 ???

Much easier to be a counterpart when we all act like adults and actually fess up.

I moved STT's posts back to General, and I'll do it for others that post information that is similar.  

Policy...No, there isn't anything written, but we had this once before about a year ago, and we agreed otherwise.  Then there was a change.  Communication was shut off.  No reply.  

Fine.  

[EX#996]

STT posted something, and you moved it to Classified.

If you look closely, Monte posted in Classifieds in not in the general section.  If it was moved, there would be a link in the general section with a lock that said "moved by ______."

[Ridgeway]

Just a suggestion... Perhaps we need a "services" section.  Trackday orgs, schools, photographers, race shops, etc. could post there without getting burried in "ZX6R Valvestem for sale" posts.

To me, these posts don't really fit all that well in general or classifieds, but could warrant their own home.

[251am]

LOL...generators...

Hey, if someone can't post information and someone else can post information...

Probably better margin in photography than there is in racing schools.  But if someone posted a racing school or a track day post...then it would be moved to Classified.

But a photographer can post.

I think they both should.

And I think someone should be able to post information about their success or hardship.  And I think if you sell VP or Power Mist and you're gonna or not gonna be somewhere, I think that belongs also in General.

I really just disagree here, and, until now, I have refused to move things that have been moved by you, Dawn.

But...."Dave would not let the issue go.  He chose to bring it up in the public forum.  That being the case, the PM's he sent regarding this issue and the root cause for it should be public also.
 
I chose not to respond to the issue any longer,"

Since you chose not to respond to me, you closed any communication.

What consistency is there in it?
 

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