Consistency...

[EmerWil]

I just want to keep it civil on the board.  I have nothing to gain as the moderator.  No sponsors, no business to promote, just here to keep and even keel so to speak.  

Unfortunately I've lost control of the rudder....   :-/

Dawn

As it should be!  That's the whole point of being a moderator...being neutral..not having an agenda!

[SliderPhoto]

Dawn, don't let this get you down. FWIW IMHO you're doing great at a thankless job. You've managed to keep the drama to a minimum which is always tough on a board like this.

[EX#996]

Thanks Jack!

We miss your smiling face around here.

 ;)

[spyderchick]

FYI, I've sent Shawn a polite email asking if he could include a section for product and service announcements. (copied to Dawn and Dave, of course) If others would consider doing this as well, it will help all of us who make part our living providing you guys what you need. The forum email addy is race@racemotorcycles.com.

I know the other board has a Politics and Religion section as well, if you would feel this would be a useful addition, you might petition Shawn to add that section if he were so inclined to make such changes.

[Super Dave]

I post just like anyone else.

Let's get this in the open.

I have a school.  There are others that have a school or a track day program as well.  I've never had a problem with anyone posting information about their program.  If someone raises BS...I'll call them on that...just like I would otherwise.  If I wanted to, I could sticky anything I wanted.  I don't.  I've sticky-ed thing for others...sometimes I'm asked, and sometimes I recognize the importance and do it after reading.

I disagreed with a moderators movemet of posts in August of 2004 of a similar nature.  There was communication, and the posts were left in the general section.  I made suggestions for adding more sections on this board, as I am unable to do so.

In June of 2005, posts of a similar nature were moved.  I privately inquired and made the same case that I made in 2004, trying to maintain the consistency that the board had.  Eventually, I was met with, I'll paraphase...I'll discuss this no further...

As for having a section that is Services or whatever...

I think there needs to be an "open" section where people can post their jokes and stuff.  There's a good deal of that taking up space in the general section.  There's seldom twenty new things happening in the general section.  

[EmerWil]

I post just like anyone else.

Let's get this in the open.

I have a school.  There are others that have a school or a track day program as well.  I've never had a problem with anyone posting information about their program.  If someone raises BS...I'll call them on that...just like I would otherwise.  If I wanted to, I could sticky anything I wanted.  I don't.  I've sticky-ed thing for others...sometimes I'm asked, and sometimes I recognize the importance and do it after reading.

I disagreed with a moderators movemet of posts in August of 2004 of a similar nature.  There was communication, and the posts were left in the general section.  I made suggestions for adding more sections on this board, as I am unable to do so.

In June of 2005, posts of a similar nature were moved.  I privately inquired and made the same case that I made in 2004, trying to maintain the consistency that the board had.  Eventually, I was met with, I'll paraphase...I'll discuss this no further...

As for having a section that is Services or whatever...

I think there needs to be an "open" section where people can post their jokes and stuff.  There's a good deal of that taking up space in the general section.  There's seldom twenty new things happening in the general section.  

you didn't comment on my conflict of interest post.  Any particular reason?

[Jeff]

you didn't comment on my conflict of interest post.  Any particular reason?

I will...

Conflict of interest can be mitigated with attention and an open mind.  I admin and own like 10 forums.  I deal with the potential to sway MANY people to purchase things from my sponsors.  If it's the right thing, I will send them.  If it's not, I won't.  My sponsors know that and appreciate it.  It keeps us all honest.

As for not having MC people moderate boards?  Why not?  They know the business, know the people, know the industry.  They just need to have an open mind.  

I won't jump on the bandwagon and comment for or against Dave in any way at this point, as it's not beneficial for anyone.

The point is...  Conflict of interest can be mitigated with a little attention.  It's not that difficult.

[L8brake731]

After following this thread for the last few days; throwing in my two cents, I have another few cents to toss into the pot:

For instance, if I decide that the "General" topic of this forum and its readers may benefit from me bringing to the attention, that I have a track day scheduled prior to a certain day of racing, I see that it only utilizes this forum as a conduit for the elivery of information. That may benefit those in my geographic region. (as this is nation wide)

If on the other hand, I make a habit, have a pattern of mentioning the same thing every month, I can undestand that some may obsevrve this as abuse or in Dave's case a conflict.

I have been a member of this forum for about a year now and have noticed that when mentioned, Dave's comments to the readers of this forum are informative and sometimes entertaining. Yes, I do notice a "plug" now and then.

Is there abuse or conflict of interests here? I think the first question I would ask is; 1) does this deminishing the spirit of this forum, 2) are the readers benefitting from the information, 3) is the information placed in "General" broad and not specific, as to place it in the other topic catagories?

[Super Dave]

you didn't comment on my conflict of interest post.  Any particular reason?

Did I need to?

How many posts do you see that I put up about my school?

I'm the one sticking up for other track day and school programs here.

If we're talking "control" of a rudder...

I didn't know there was any agenda of controling a rudder...

Yeah, we don't have a whole lot of slamming here...

But, schools and track day orgs, businesses offering race support have been allowed to post info.  Certainly important info.

Since I'm a moderator...again, there aren't a lot of other people that would do it...I shouldn't be allowed the same freedom as other posters?

Again, I could sticky my own information.  Wouldn't be right now would it.

[251am]

   So, how was BHF this weekend? I got down to see John Wood and pick up some authentic Stumpy take offs-Thanks John for the delivery. The paddock looked full coming out of the pit out area overflowing to the Sahara flats where heat waves could be seen shimmering. Had to leave at about 90 degrees, that was 10:45am. Everything go alright today? (This is the General area of the forum where we talk about RACING, right?)

[StumpysWife]

Hey Todd, Glad you got them safe and sound.  

You'd think staying away from Blackhawk would also mean staying away from road rash.  Not so. Stumpy had his first get off on the road bike Saturday going about 35 mph.  Another biker in the group rubbed his front tire and Stumpy fell.  He got away with a lot of scrapes, but the guy who ran him over wasn't so lucky and landed face first, split his lip to his nose and knocked out all his front teeth.  

My first reaction:  "This wasn't supposed to happen this weekend."

Are there any dangers to golf?   ::)

Heather

[Dawn]

Are there any dangers to golf?   ::)

Heather

Perhaps only this one.....



 ;D