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Started by Super Dave, July 07, 2005, 07:47:47 AM

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Super Dave

Should apply everywhere?

Policies are put in place by people.  They they should be executed for all of those forms of information based on certain criteria.

If one cannot execute the policy with consistency, a policy enacted by one person not in agreement with another, then why does the policy exist?
Super Dave

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Exuse me, but I'm lost. What are you talking about?  ??? ??? ??? ??? ???
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extrakt0r

#2
If someone institutes a policy w/o the approval or consent of another person, it is more than likely an attempt to govern that person, and force them into doing something.

Should consistency apply everywhere? No. There are times where rules, polices need to be in place and it is impossible to get everyone to consent to institute that policy, therefore the majority rules, and the minority loses...
Mike Simone
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Jeff

I would agree with Mike here.

Blind compliance of a 'policy' without some reasonable, objectionable judgement is a BAD thing.

If this were the case and/or possible, policies would never change.
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extrakt0r

So where were you going with this SD?
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2005 CCS AM Unlimited GP Champion
2005 CCS AM Unlimited SuperBike Champion
2005 CCS AM Unlimited SuperSport Champion

Steviebee

Policy is put into place by people that believe they are smarter than what group the policy is for.  Hence they have no reason to follow policy, whence its for those who have lesser intelligence.

Usually policy is a hinderance to you because the people that made the policy didnt have a clue what to do and hence dedided that since they didnt know what to do, then everyone else would need to be told what to do.

Rarely policy can be made to work for you.

Sometimes you just have to bendover and take it like a man.

251am


Super Dave

Some messages are getting moved into other sections.

Reason said is that they are from people that are making money doing the thing they are posting about.

However, that is not consistently being done.

Items, like bikes and parts, etc...yeah, I think they belong in classifieds.

Some "items" are that tangeble.  Schools, track days, services.  Additional things, racing fuel availablity, and the like.  How about photographers?

If you're charging for a picture, you're "making money".  Does that now belong in "classifieds"?  

If you have sponsors, you're certainly trying to make money, or at least stop the bleeding.  Given that, press releases and information, ultimately it generates press or even hits on a website...that generates something that can be used to "sell" the sponsorship or even create a rate to charge a paying advertiser...

Super Dave

EX#996

My goodness Dave....

You never let anything go, do ya?  It makes me wonder if you have ulcers.  If you don't, I'd be really surprised.

I was receiving a lot of e-mails over concerns about a couple of threads.  This is one of them....

http://www.racemotorcycles.com/cgi-bin/board/YaBB.pl?board=ccsclass;action=display;num=1118782318

These were threads where, quite honestly, some of you were acting like a bunch of asses.  I hate to say it, but read it again and you will see it.  

So instead of just nuking the thread, I moved it to classifieds where it quitely faded into the sunset.  The only thing that didn't fade was your (Super_Dave's) annoying and harrasing PM's about "are you going to move this? - - are you going to move this? - - what about this?"  

So Dave....

If you continue to bring this up, I will more than willing to share some of your PM's that you sent me with the board.  I'm sure that some would be extremly surprised at the things that you have wrote.

Oh BTW....  Even after the stupid ass things you have pulled on this board, I have offered my hand in friendship.  Now I'm wondering why I even bother.

Your acting like a child, grow up!

Dawn

Paul and Dawn Buxton

251am

  Let's set some of the personal differences from the past aside. No more throwing things into each other's face.    



  A. If only selective enforcement of current policy is the case, why?  Do we, a. Need a different moderator to enforce policy, or b. Need a change of policy?   Is the situation more complicated than that and merits me minding my own business?  

    

EX#996

Quote Let's set some of the personal differences from the past aside. No more throwing things into each other's face.    



  A. If only selective enforcement of current policy is the case, why?  Do we, a. Need a different moderator to enforce policy, or b. Need a change of policy?   Is the situation more complicated than that and merits me minding my own business?  

    

I was asked to be the moderator and was informed by the administrator to 'keep the spirit of the board' a positive one.  When approached by members of this board over a concern of a particular thread, I will take a look at it and try to bring it back around to the reason we all come here in the first place.  Sometimes I'm successful at it and sometimes I'm not.  This was one thread that I was not.

When I'm not successful, then I need to become more drastic in my measures by either editing posts, moving, or deleting them.  The thread above was moved.  In hindsight, I should have probably deleted it.

I have no problem with anyone questioning why I did something, but remember: this is an internet bulletin board, there is no 'policy' so to speak, everything is subjective.  Some will love what I do, and others will not.  

So... to clearly answer your questions:

1)  I was more than happy to let this issue fade into the sunset and everyone get back to 'normal' so to speak.

2)  My counterpart did not see it that way and continued to harrass me over it.

3)  There is no policy for the board, and there will not be.  We're all adults here, right?

Dawn
Paul and Dawn Buxton

MZGirl

Maybe it's a good thing there are 3 moderators.  That way when 2 are disagreeing, the 3rd can step in.

This is just my observation, Dawn, but most of us didn't even know what SD was specifically talking about.  Most were discussing the definition of "policy."  But by posting the link to the thread you wanted to have "fade into the sunset," you just dumped fuel on the fire (and brought more attention to that thread).  There's no need to justify your position as moderator.  I'd recommend taking this disagreement up with Shawn (since it's his board and he has the final word) rather than discussing it here on the message board.

And posting PM's publicly on the message board (or threatening to do so) is just not cool.