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Title: This Generator...Good Deal? Coleman Raw Power 6250
Post by: PolishPete on April 08, 2007, 02:04:13 AM
Is this generator a good deal.  While comparing prices and features, this seems like the price and wattage is ok.  What can you guys tell me from your experiences.  From researching I see that loud generators are no good.  Is there a way to tell if it will be loud?  I see some guys at the track put the generator far from where they pit and run extension cords?  Is that allowed everywhere and a good idea?  I decided that warmers and a generator would be a good investment for the track, now I just need to learn about them so I know what to get.  Thanks for your help.
Title: Re: This Generator...Good Deal? Coleman Raw Power 6250
Post by: Garywc on April 08, 2007, 09:23:33 AM
thats a big generator.
what is it you plan on doing with one would be a a good question to ask first.
camping running a trailer.or just running tire warmers during the day.
camping you want a quiet one so you can run it at night with out keeping everyone awake.
just for tire warmers a generator big enough for yourself or maybe one other person will do like a 3000.
quit is still good for that too.
i believe hondas quiet one is under 50 dps some that are in th 60 db range arent too loud you can deal with them while close to your pit area.
the bigger the generator the more room it takes up and you have to move it around unless it mounted permenit some where.
Title: Re: This Generator...Good Deal? Coleman Raw Power 6250
Post by: Super Dave on April 08, 2007, 09:24:37 AM
Loud generators are only loud.  Should produce the wattage you need though.  Placing it further away from yourself is really related to your neighbors and where your at at the track. 

Coleman makes generators for themselves, and they make generators that are branded for other companies.  How they make them for each company is contingent upon what the company wants.  I had a John Deere generator that worked very well.  It was made by Coleman at the time, and it was "medium loud".  Didn't need to put it 100 feet away, but I didn't want it too near in the pits.  Other side of the trailer was good.  Not sure how loud the one you're looking at is, but I've seen them at the track.

I believe the 6250 is the surge wattage, and I think the regular operating wattage is more toward 4000 to 4500.  Maybe you know more than me.
Title: Re: This Generator...Good Deal? Coleman Raw Power 6250
Post by: Gixxerblade on April 08, 2007, 10:32:33 AM
Quote from: Garywc on April 08, 2007, 09:23:33 AM
thats a big generator.
what is it you plan on doing with one would be a a good question to ask first.
camping running a trailer.or just running tire warmers during the day.
camping you want a quiet one so you can run it at night with out keeping everyone awake.
just for tire warmers a generator big enough for yourself or maybe one other person will do like a 3000.
quit is still good for that too.
i believe hondas quiet one is under 50 dps some that are in th 60 db range arent too loud you can deal with them while close to your pit area.
the bigger the generator the more room it takes up and you have to move it around unless it mounted permenit some where.
Loud smloud! I will run my Coleman Powermate right under my EZ-Up and there isn't a thing nobody will do in the middle of the night. I kinda like the noise anyway. Helps me sleep better.
Title: Re: This Generator...Good Deal? Coleman Raw Power 6250
Post by: PolishPete on April 08, 2007, 11:04:31 AM
Thanks for the info guys, and thanks for the db levels.  Gives me some numbers to look into and compare.
Title: Re: This Generator...Good Deal? Coleman Raw Power 6250
Post by: PolishPete on April 08, 2007, 11:06:04 AM
I'd like the generator to power at least one set of warmers...two would be best for me and a friend.  Also maybe a fan for hot days and a heater for those colder days.  I searched and found some info about 1000w not being enough for warmers and fan.  I think the one I posted might be overkill, but I guess its better to be over prepared then under prepared.
Title: Re: This Generator...Good Deal? Coleman Raw Power 6250
Post by: Sig on April 08, 2007, 06:05:23 PM
I hate those loud ass generators. If you are looking for something on a budget get the 2600lct


http://www.stickboyracing.com/generators.html

It's cheap and MUCH quieter than the coleman
Title: Re: This Generator...Good Deal? Coleman Raw Power 6250
Post by: Super Dave on April 08, 2007, 06:22:02 PM
How many db?
Title: Re: This Generator...Good Deal? Coleman Raw Power 6250
Post by: Sig on April 08, 2007, 06:57:57 PM
now sure now many DB is it, but it's not quite as quiet at the hondas but you can be 10ft away and have a normal conversation.
Title: Re: This Generator...Good Deal? Coleman Raw Power 6250
Post by: Super Dave on April 08, 2007, 07:18:55 PM
That's a wide range.  I can do that with one of my Yamaha generators, but not the other.
Title: Re: This Generator...Good Deal? Coleman Raw Power 6250
Post by: Sig on April 08, 2007, 09:12:32 PM
Quote from: Super Dave on April 08, 2007, 07:18:55 PM
That's a wide range.  I can do that with one of my Yamaha generators, but not the other.

You will see these generators all over the pits at any given race weekend, especially WERA events. I'd say just check one out or email stickboy, he might have DB numbers.
Title: Re: This Generator...Good Deal? Coleman Raw Power 6250
Post by: RUFFSTUFF on April 08, 2007, 10:18:27 PM
Quote from: Sig on April 08, 2007, 06:05:23 PM
I hate those loud ass generators. If you are looking for something on a budget get the 2600lct


http://www.stickboyracing.com/generators.html

It's cheap and MUCH quieter than the coleman


I wish I knew this before I bought my PowerMate 6250. I like that I can power anything I want to, but I do wish it was quieter, even though it's not the worst around. Those are nicely priced, too.
Title: Re: This Generator...Good Deal? Coleman Raw Power 6250
Post by: Jason748 on April 08, 2007, 10:23:43 PM
I've got a "private label" Colmen, that looks exactly like the LCT2600,  it's noisy, but not bad, at 25 - 30 ft away (or on the other side of the trailer) you can't hear it.  It's labeled as a 3125 pro-force (2500 constant operating watts.  Runs tire warmers and my trailer (about 500 Watts with all the lights on) with no problems, but the tank is a little small.
Picked it up at the local Fleet Farm for $250 on clearance last year.  :biggrin:
Title: Re: This Generator...Good Deal? Coleman Raw Power 6250
Post by: dylanfan53 on April 08, 2007, 11:00:39 PM
Didn't someone on here have a line on a Honda EU2000i last fall?
Title: Re: This Generator...Good Deal? Coleman Raw Power 6250
Post by: Jeff on April 09, 2007, 11:35:08 AM
EU2000's can generally be had in the $750 range, but that's 3x the price of the noisy construction generators being discussed here.

Noisy generators suck.  If you have one, at least be kind enough to limit it to 8am - 10pm.  Running them overnight is not cool...

I know a lot of people in the RV world who have had great success with some chinese gensets named "Kippor".  I have a good friend who bought one for his boat and he is absolutely 100% satisfied with it.  He recommends it over the Honda in that if the thing burns up he can buy 2-3 of them before he gets to the price point of a similar honda.

A 2000w QUIET generator will suffice for most paddocks.  We've run 2 sets of warmers on a 2k, or 1 set of warmers and a coffee pot...

You'll make no friends with a loud ass generator.
Title: Re: This Generator...Good Deal? Coleman Raw Power 6250
Post by: stickboy274 on April 09, 2007, 12:15:42 PM
I just got back from Tally, and I will be replying to e-mails as soon as I get the weekend stuff sorted. Thanks for sned peopel to me.

The guys that make the LCT stuff race with us and want us to have a good product.

I'll get that info out later today.

Thanks
Title: Re: This Generator...Good Deal? Coleman Raw Power 6250
Post by: Sig on April 09, 2007, 05:25:32 PM
See, I knew he was out there somewhere. :)
Title: Re: This Generator...Good Deal? Coleman Raw Power 6250
Post by: stickboy274 on April 09, 2007, 07:06:36 PM
Yeah, I'm back now and will start going through all my mail. I will also have one, or more if people ask, of these at CMP this weekend. Look for the Bridgestone guy and that will be me.

I'll probably have mine running my trailer since the power there gives trouble some times.
Title: Re: This Generator...Good Deal? Coleman Raw Power 6250
Post by: PolishPete on April 14, 2007, 11:43:57 PM
There is somebody locally...actually up my street, about a block down, that posted a sign that said "Generator For Sale".  I mean come on...what are the chances, I'm looking for a generator and there just happens to be one for sale on my street?  Just randomly?  I don't know!!  Anyway, the guy says it looks/works brand new.  Its a Coleman Powermate 5000 watt 10hp generator.  He's asking $400.  I figure maybe offer him $375?  They sell for about $600 online.  What do you guys think?  Good deal...jump on it or no?

Again, looking for something to power 2 sets of warmers, fan, and possibly something else small.  Also, we'd like to buy right the first time, instead of buying small then upgrading.   So recommended, or overkill no matter what we plan on plugging in?

Also, If we wired some lights to a trailer, and plugged them into a power strip, would we be able to run those as well?

Thanks again for all the info you guys provide!!
Title: Re: This Generator...Good Deal? Coleman Raw Power 6250
Post by: dylanfan53 on April 15, 2007, 12:56:19 AM
If its the 10 hp Briggs with the folding handle I have that generator.  (I may have the 10h Tecumseh but they run the same price.)  I've run it for three years and it's been great.  I'm thinking about selling it for a quiet Honda since I no longer have two bikes at the track and don't need that much power.  That generator will easily run two sets of warmers with power to spare, although I can't say exactly how much since the most I ever ran at once was two sets of warmers, a fan and electric drill.

Pros - Runs all day on a tank.  Plenty of power. Sturdy.
Cons - A bit heavy to lug around.  Overkill if you only have one bike.

Noise - Moderate, IMO.  Definitely not quiet and I wouldn't run it at night, but no worse than the other standard generators out there.  I place it away from neighbors.
Price - It runs about $600 new.  $400 isn't bad if it's in really good shape.

If the one you're looking at is in good shape (i.e. sat in a garage and wasn't used much) and you can get it for $350-$375 that's not a bad price.  Some people hardly use them and others abuse them and never change oil so it's hard to tell.  I've been through two of the smaller 1850 Coleman Powermates even though I changed the oil regularly.  I'd avoid those.

I'll sell you mine for $300 if you're in the Midwest and don't mind that I bent in the front panel of it a bit.  Forgot it was sitting in front of the car.  Oops.  The damage is all cosmetic.  I dented it the first weekend I had it but everything works fine.  Can get pics if you want.   
Title: Re: This Generator...Good Deal? Coleman Raw Power 6250
Post by: PolishPete on April 15, 2007, 09:50:30 AM
Sent PM...email me some pics if you can.  Thanks.

peterhockey29 (at) hotmail.com
Title: Re: This Generator...Good Deal? Coleman Raw Power 6250
Post by: dietDrThunder on April 15, 2007, 02:15:06 PM
Quote from: Jason748 on April 08, 2007, 10:23:43 PM
I've got a "private label" Colmen, that looks exactly like the LCT2600,  it's noisy, but not bad, at 25 - 30 ft away (or on the other side of the trailer) you can't hear it.  It's labeled as a 3125 pro-force (2500 constant operating watts.  Runs tire warmers and my trailer (about 500 Watts with all the lights on) with no problems, but the tank is a little small.
Picked it up at the local Fleet Farm for $250 on clearance last year.  :biggrin:

This isn't the same generator as Stick's LCT2600. The 2600 will run _all_ day (and then some) on a tank, and is way quieter than the Coleman 3125. There is no other generator on the market right now with the combination of quiet, power, and price as the LCT2600.  The only way yo get anything quieter is to get one of the inverter style (big $$).

While we're on the subject, if you've got a generator that isnt' _very_ quiet, put a little effort into mitigating the noise. I bring (3) 4'x4' pieces of plywood with me to the track, and use them to build a little lean-to where I put my LCT6500. It takes about 5 minutes, stays up all weekend with a couple of Velcro straps and a couple or tie-downs, and from 20' away I cna't tell if it's running or not during the say, because general ambient noise drowns it out.

I'm sure there's something you can do at the track that is more rude and inconsiderate than running a generator out in the open all day and night, but I can't think of what it is.
Title: Re: This Generator...Good Deal? Coleman Raw Power 6250
Post by: r1owner on April 16, 2007, 09:24:24 AM
I have one of Stickboys LCT's.  Runs fine and isn't too loud.  I'll have it at the May 12th weekend @ BHF if you want to take a look/listen at it SuperDave.
Title: Re: This Generator...Good Deal? Coleman Raw Power 6250
Post by: Jason748 on April 16, 2007, 11:00:16 PM
Quote from: dietDrThunder on April 15, 2007, 02:15:06 PM
This isn't the same generator as Stick's LCT2600. The 2600 will run _all_ day (and then some) on a tank, and is way quieter than the Coleman 3125. There is no other generator on the market right now with the combination of quiet, power, and price as the LCT2600.  The only way yo get anything quieter is to get one of the inverter style (big $$).

Didn't say it was the same... just looked the same, but don't they all now days...

Quote from: dietDrThunder on April 15, 2007, 02:15:06 PM
I'm sure there's something you can do at the track that is more rude and inconsiderate than running a generator out in the open all day and night, but I can't think of what it is.

I can think of one... Playing a loud ass stereo at 11 on the volume knob... when people are trying to sleep.
Title: Re: This Generator...Good Deal? Coleman Raw Power 6250
Post by: r1owner on April 16, 2007, 11:22:54 PM
Letting your dog bark all freaking night.