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[Super Dave]

Yeah, I know you could LEASE Ducati Superbikes in the Mid '90's for about $80k.  

I'd bet the lease on a MGP bike is in the millions.

The cool forks on superbikes are probably $65k to $125k, if you could get them.  And you can't.  The AMA is not like NASCAR where parts are restricted so that they are obtainable by teams.  The outcomes are more or less determined by the manufacturer teams...hence, AMA racing will never be as popular or financially viable for the cottage industry of racers, tuners, etc.

[Steviebee]

if you could get them.  And you can't.  

Thats my big beef about AMA.  

Yes you could get them, you can "claim" them.  (if its still in the rules)  atleast motors/ frames/  i think forks and shocks still.  but no one will do it for fear of they will never get a factory ride.  (even though they never will anyways.)

Same thing with tires,  you never could go as fast even if you had the same bike as Malidin, Hes got those nifty hand built Race tires that drop a sec off his race time that you cant get.  Thats how Hodgson won his WSB title,  and after that the went to produciton race tires,  best move they ever made imo.

What i remember seeing written ive heard that its 14 mill to run a MotoGP team for the year, and 1.5 mill to run an AMA team a year.

Now you guys are bumming me out,  I was figuring on spending a 100 grand on a superbike and go as fast as maladin !!!   ;D ;D

[spyderchick]

Now you guys are bumming me out,  I was figuring on spending a 100 grand on a superbike and go as fast as maladin !!!   ;D ;D

Dude, if you actually had 100K, you could so easily buy every #1 plate CCS has to offer. (I mean, that's what evryone SAYS it takes). :o ;)

Nah, seriously, This is where it gets to be a business for everyone involved in the AMA and at the world level. It's about the exposure, winning, and using that to market product. Pivateers will always be at a disadvantage.

We were actually thinking to make the racing closer at Daytona this year they should have them put restrictor plates on the bikes for the 200. I mean, it works for Crashcar.  ::)  

[tigerblade]

10x the cost and only 3.3% improvment in lap times.
top 600 FX bikes.

I still find it mind boggling that the utmost hightech best bike out there (MGP) wouldnt lap a produciton based bike (SBK) in a race.

Just remember that as you start to push the performance envelope, it gets exponentially more difficult/more expensive to improve even further.  10 mph is much more difficult and costly when it's the difference between 190-200 mph than it is between 150-160 mph.  Aerodynamics become more and more important and you can't always just throw more HP at the problem.

[spyderchick]

Just remember that as you start to push the performance envelope, it gets exponentially more difficult/more expensive to improve even further.  10 mph is much more difficult and costly when it's the difference between 190-200 mph than it is between 150-160 mph.  Aerodynamics become more and more important and you can't always just throw more HP at the problem.

Exactly, that's what they do in F1. The wind tunnel testing becomes one of the major factors in development across the board. I'm just wondering when they will start to play with downforce as an aspect of M/C design. Could make bikes look really cool or really really ugly.

[tigerblade]

Exactly, that's what they do in F1. The wind tunnel testing becomes one of the major factors in development across the board. I'm just wondering when they will start to play with downforce as an aspect of M/C design. Could make bikes look really cool or really really ugly.

Did you read the article on the vortex generators they were playing around with on the Tularis?  Interesting stuff!

[spyderchick]

No I didn't. Do you have a link or can you tell me what magazine published the article? Sounds intriguing.

[tigerblade]

No I didn't. Do you have a link or can you tell me what magazine published the article? Sounds intriguing.

Found this so far but it's not the article I read.  I think the one I remember was in Roadracing World?

http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:e3uJPdh__YMJ:www.mae.cemr.wvu.edu/news/news-details.php%3Fitem%3D192+vortex+generators,+tularis&hl=en

Here's a general article on what vortex generators are:

http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/aerodynamics/q0009.shtml

[Super Dave]

Yes you could get them, you can "claim" them

Ha, Ha!

The Showa teams all claim each others stuff so they are the only one's that can play...

[spyderchick]

Found this so far but it's not the article I read.  I think the one I remember was in Roadracing World?

http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:e3uJPdh__YMJ:www.mae.cemr.wvu.edu/news/news-details.php%3Fitem%3D192+vortex+generators,+tularis&hl=en

Here's a general article on what vortex generators are:

http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/aerodynamics/q0009.shtml

Very cool science.

[TZDeSioux]

Tamada at 1:56.63 at Qatar. Over 2 seconds faster than the track record set by Checa last year. I guess he likes them michelins.

[Protein Filled]

7/10th's faster than the 2nd best times! That is impressive! Cool to see Melandri up there as well!


Also to note that 2nd to 6th were all separated by less than 5/100th's!!

BTW Rev, how come Biaggi is all the way down in 7th place? Must be that crappy Factory Honda that he has this year, huh!?