motoGP test times from qatar

[Steviebee]

I notice the Fastest MGP times are only about 3 secs faster then the WSB times.
WOW  i guess i thought there would be a bigger difference!

I thought the motoGP bikes were 350 lbs with 240 HP.
Im guessing that the WSB bikes are 370 lbs with 220 HP.

I cant find any top speeds but the WSB were 200mph.
Comments ?  

[Super Dave]

It's my standard analogy...
HP won't really make the time.

The GP bikes are probably spinning in 6th.
 
Hard just to get them to hook up.

[tigerblade]

The GP bikes are probably spinning in 6th.
 
Hard just to get them to hook up.

I'm sure they are.  Colin Edwards' articles from when he was riding the Aprilia said they had such a huge problem just keeping the front wheel on the ground.  If it wasn't the front in the air, it was the rear spinning up like crazy.  Lots of power to get through that small contact patch!

[Super Dave]

Even a production based GSXR1000 will spin the rear on the banking at Daytona...

[Steviebee]

Considering the expense of a MotoGP bike vs a Suberbike.

I was thinking the lap times would be faster.  Heck a Superbike could qualify for a MGP race.  and prably not get lapped at Qatar.  I figure Corser could proally beat the WCM and Proton GP bikes.

[tigerblade]

3 seconds is a pretty significant amount of time in top-level racing.

[TZDeSioux]

As of today, the fastest lap at at the Qatar test is 1:57.69 by Tamada and Capirossi. The fastest lap of the WSBK race was 2:01.244 by Corser. That is already over 4 seconds faster. I imagine the Motogp guys will be even faster during the actual race at Qatar.  If that's not significant enough for you.. then maybe you should check out the differences in laptimes for Factory AMA Superbikes vs the factory superstock bikes at a track like Daytona as well as the cost differences between them. Besides Also take into account how slippery that track is. I would think that HUGE horsepower and a sandy track don't go too well together

[Super Dave]

. I would think that HUGE horsepower and a sandy track don't go too well together

Sounds like Daytona...

[EM JAY]

Sounds like Daytona...

Snif....Daytona, where I was Supposta be leaving for today... :'(   Enjoying my stress & drama at work instead... >:(

[Steviebee]

well im guessing the Honda MGP is well over a million.

Whats the Corna gixer  100 grand ?

10x the cost and only 3.3% improvment in lap times.

Im still impressed.  Consider a (I hate to compare with car racing)  Rolex sports car vs an F1 car.  The F1 car has 1/2 the lap time.  and were talking a 200 grand car vs a 5 million car.

Err on Daytona   Top speeds
193 mph(disalvo SS R1)
194 mph Hodgson  SBK Duck

lap times (i couldnt find the best but these are from 1 session)
Miguel Duhamel, Hon CBR1000RR Superbike, 1:40.987
2. Neil Hodgson, Duc 999F05 Superbike, 1:41.027
6. Tommy Hayden, Kaw ZX-10R Superstock, 1:42.084
7. Jason Pridmore, Suz GSX-R1000 Superstock, 1:42.150

AMA superbikes are what 370 lbs ? 200 HP
SS bikes  are same weight ?  180-190 HP

100 grand (or less) for the SBK 30 grand for the SS bikes ??  maybee more ?

and last year the top SS 600's were faster the the top 600 FX bikes.

I still find it mind boggling that the utmost hightech best bike out there (MGP) wouldnt lap a produciton based bike (SBK) in a race.


guess im alone on this one.

[Steviebee]

It's my standard analogy...
HP won't really make the time.

Thats why i havent spent any money on motor mods.   I want to wait till i can do the time !!

[TZDeSioux]

well im guessing the Honda MGP is well over a million.

Whats the Corna gixer  100 grand ?

10x the cost and only 3.3% improvment in lap times.

The works forks and shock probably cost a 100 grand. I bet the factory world superbikes cost around 250k if you could even put a price on it. I wonder how much a factory team would spend to make their riders 3.3% faster.  ;)