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[K3 Chris Onwiler]

I'll sign up for that class every round  ;D

Man, I just CAN'T WAIT to line up next to you! ::)

[cornercamping]

Man, I just CAN'T WAIT to line up next to you! ::)

 ;D  What are you trying to say  ???  Spit it out  :)

[BERZERKER]

so,  if a racer won 10 rounds of any single AM class they still would not qualify to be on the bump list? that does not seem right....

or if a racer really sucked but had lots of cash and  entered virtually every AM class event got lapped 10 times each race but accumulated 751 points they could be an Expert?


Can anyone explain the logic behind raising the total point count from 500 to 750?

[Dawn]

New class proposal!  Formula ISUCK!!!!

LOL!!!!!

 ;D

[GSXR RACER MIKE]

New class proposal!  Formula ISUCK!!!!

LMAO! ;D That's awesome, I 2nd that motion! ;D LOL  ;)

ROFLMAO!!!    ;D  ;D   ;D   ;)    2005 is right around the corner Mike, put your knee down and go for it!!

Sounds good Mike, I'm planning on doing just that very thing. :)

[GSXR RACER MIKE]

so,  if a racer won 10 rounds of any single AM class they still would not qualify to be on the bump list? that does not seem right....

     As Eric already said, you would have most likely won the championship in that class with those finishes so that would force an upgrade automatically. The chances of this situation arising are very slim though, due to the fact that if your new and running only 1 class per event you probably wouldn't be able to win as described. On the other side of the coin is if you were that good you most likely would be running at least 2 or 3 classes per event so you would have a lot more than 750 points with consistent top 5 finishes. And yet another issue is double points and twin sprint events which are part of almost every regions schedule, they would push that rider over 750 points as well.

or if a racer really sucked but had lots of cash and  entered virtually every AM class event got lapped 10 times each race but accumulated 751 points they could be an Expert?

Can anyone explain the logic behind raising the total point count from 500 to 750?

     Expert status is more about knowing what your doing than just lap times. A rider who is able to meet the 750 points in the least amount of races as an Amateur has shown that they understand the fundamentals of racing in order to run up front. This rider may not be the safest or smoothest racer out there but they do understand enough to be faster than the majority of Amateurs. Typically this type of rider is entering multiple classes per event and will gain experience quickly (not to be read as improved skill, though that will improve somewhat as well even without instruction. Seeking instruction to help improve will advance their ability the quickest).

     The opposite senerio is the last place Amateur that gets lapped 3 times in a sprint. This person may still be able to achieve the 750 points by the end of the season thru multiple class entries per event in classes with lower entries (so as to get the most amount of points for last place). Even this person will most likely improve during the season by running lap after lap after lap which will make them a more knowledgable racer. The amount of track time that would be required by this person to meet the 750 point bump would be substantially more than the fast guy senerio.

     The slow guy example is the reason CCS raised the points from 500 to 750, so as to require the person to have more experience before meeting the Expert bump level. Too many racer that weren't ready to go Expert were meeting the 500 point level by the end of the season. By raising this point it would require someone who constantly finished 20th in their races to run 9 more races before they would reach the 750 points. Confidence is the big issue with advancement, those extra 9 races may be enough to gain that added confidence. If the person still isn't confident with their ability then they can petition to be held back for 1 year after having surpassed the 750 point level. :)

[310Lytle]

so,  if a racer won 10 rounds of any single AM class they still would not qualify to be on the bump list? that does not seem right....

or if a racer really sucked but had lots of cash and  entered virtually every AM class event got lapped 10 times each race but accumulated 751 points they could be an Expert?


Can anyone explain the logic behind raising the total point count from 500 to 750?

DING DING DING.... we have a winner!

You would enter more than one class, GSXR Mike,
if your bike was legal in them. Not all of us ride SV's.

Is this based on Amature "Selective" Points?
What, excactly does "selective" mean?

[StumpysWife]

Is this based on Amature "Selective" Points?
What, excactly does "selective" mean?

Only points from certain classes count toward the overall point total.  

They are:
Lightweight Supersport, Middleweight Supersport, Heavyweight Supersport, Unlimited Supersport, Ultra-lightweigt Superbike, Lightweight Superbike, Middleweight Superbike, Heavyweight Superbike, Lightweight GP, Middleweight GP, Unlimited GP, GTL, GTU, GTO.  

I don't know if Unlimited Superbike will count toward overall points.  Supertwins does not and they are running together.  

I believe it was raised to 750 to allow for double points races. That's just my opinion, though.  

They will look at your lap times in the petition.

Heather

[dave_anderson]

Is it only "Selective" points that count towards the 750 total.  LW/F40 points only count for that class?

[StumpysWife]

Is it only "Selective" points that count towards the 750 total.  LW/F40 points only count for that class?

I don't know that only selective points count.  But selective points are what I listed above.  Check the rulebook for a definite answer.


Heather

[dave_anderson]

I would like some one to clear this up for me. I am one of the names listed earlier as not being listed on the bump list. This was my first year, I raced LW/SS, LW/SB, & LW/F40, if you count all three classes I have 1400+ points with no class championships. My performance index average is 500+. I just want to make sure that the list is correct, and I can send my '05 paper work back and not have a problem at the first race with yellow plates on the bike. I am not trying to sandbag. just do the right thing.

[xseal]

The F40 (or LWF40) points don't count for the 750 pt bump purposes.