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[ekraft84]

You don't get it Sunny.  Try to *listen* rather than talk all the time.  Even in the midst of you claiming not to make excuses, you're making them again.

You're so stubborn.  Ever wonder why so many people are always on your case?  

:)

[H-man]

pick one:
- either you agree with us and feel that the rider is the majority of the equation
- or you disagree and feel the the performance gap is too big to overcome.

we can debate based on your response.  but, you gotta pick ONE!

Well, almost.

My take on this is that Sunny would agree with you that the rider does make a (maybe even the) difference.

However ::), me thinketh Sunny is also saying he wants to close the performance gap that he perceives so that regardless of his rider skill HE he believes he has the chance to win.

Like a noted a ways back Sunny, I feel for you man.  Your fun doesn't come from the competition or the paddock, only in whether you win. :(

H-man

[Sunny]

Brian/Eddie, I am not debating here, but agreeing with you guys.  I guess you are not reading me right............

- either you agree with us and feel that the rider is the majority of the equation

Yes, I agree and knew that I am still a relative slow rider and could improve a lot.

- or you disagree and feel the the performance gap is too big to overcome.

Yes, that's how I feel if I had to race against SV650 or the like in other classes than DSS/DSB.



So is it clear now?  I also said that I'll continue to race my 400 in DSS/DSB (where the bike is not an issue) and work on my riding (the biggest factor) and improve my lap time next year.  Plus, I'll work hard to get a SV650 or the like later (can't work out the finance for the coming year as I may be making a big life commitment if you know what I mean; Eddie, aren't you in the same shoe?), or maybe a 600 to come racing with you and try to learn and improve through thougher competition.

Eddie, I truly don't understand why people are always on my case as you put it.  I thought that I am always clear to the points with reason, but maybe no one is reading what I am saying but what they want to think I am really saying, or just like to alienating/mess with me due to the WERA incident? ???? ?

Again, no matter how much more you would like to turn this into an argument, I am just explaining how I see things and try to be realistic about it instead of dreaming up something that only Dan would do.  Yes, I will not deny that I am stubborn, but that shouldn't cause anyone to not see my points.  I believe I am a person one can easily reason with although I do have strong opinions on things based on facts/what I know.


H, thanks for listening as it seems that you are the only one who isn't biased toward anything nor judging me from any prior experience or how others feel about me and did read what I am trying to say. I know I suck at expressing myself, but thought that I am at least clear with my points...........  Obviously, I am still very bad at it. :-[ :-/   I am going to just shut up (otherwise, it seems that I am losing friends and/or causing people to dislike me over nothing...........hopefully not yet with Eddie and Brian) and race, and let the result speak for itself...................

[ekraft84]

I ain't madatcha.  Nothing but love for ya.  :D

[Sunny]

Thanks Eddie.  I learn a lot from you about Nelson towing behind you for a few laps after you passed me this year!  Hope to learn (or is it more like stealing  ;D) more from you next year!

[H-man]

H, thanks for listening as it seems that you are the only one who isn't biased toward anything nor judging me from any prior experience or how others feel about me and did read what I am trying to say. I know I suck at expressing myself, but thought that I am at least clear with my points...........

So I got it right, eh?  "Well, Don Pardo, what does the H-man win?" ;D

Then again, maybe I should be a bit worried about this ability to understand you Sunny  :P  ;)

[jigmoore]

i'm not mad at anybody either....just wanted to stop what i thought was a unreasonable excuse.

btw...not trying to kick a dead horse...but....

what is the horsepower of:
fzr400?
sv650?

i know:
gsxr600 is around 105
gsxr1000 is around 140

[H-man]

Well, I'm mad at everybody.  Kill my landlord, kill my landlord. C-I-L-L, kill my landlord.


Hmmm...  :-Xmaybe the average age of the folks on this board is too young to remember Eddie Murphy on SNL? :-/

I better watch what I write ;)

[H-man]

what is the horsepower of:
fzr400?
sv650?

Would that be a European SV or an American SV? ;) ;D

[Sunny]

btw...not trying to kick a dead horse...but....

what is the horsepower of:
fzr400?
sv650?

i know:
gsxr600 is around 105
gsxr1000 is around 140

Stock FZR400: 59HP and ~24 ft.lb torque
Stock SV650: ~70HP and ~45 ft.lb torque (wow!!!!!)
Stock RVF400: 53HP and ~25 ft.lb torque (HP is down from 59 as the earlier 400's due to new Japanese gentlemen agreement)

In stock trim, all three weight about the same at 400 lb range.

Aaron's FZR400 is 1 or 2 mm overbored, so I am not sure where that puts him.

[jigmoore]

Stock FZR400: 59HP and ~24 ft.lb torque
Stock SV650: ~70HP and ~45 ft.lb torque (wow!!!!!)
Stock RVF400: 53HP and ~25 ft.lb torque (HP is down from 59 as the earlier 400's due to new Japanese gentlemen agreement)

In stock trim, all three weight about the same at 400 lb range.

Aaron's FZR400 is 1 or 2 mm overbored, so I am not sure where that puts him.

it appears to me that the sv is only 18% more powerful than the 400.

i have been racing against 1000's that are 33% more powerful than my 600 and it has not been noticable.

quityerbitchin, save your money, and race the 400.

[H-man]

 ;D ;D

quit yer bitchin

  :-X ;D ;D

Gotta love that auto censor ::)  It still makes me laugh.