wera racer trying ccs

[jigmoore]

i have raced novice north central wera all this season and want to try the ccs race at gingerman on oct 9-10.

could someone let me know the major differences between a ccs vs a wera race weekend?

is there anything i will need to do prior to showing up at gingerman?  (ie. call ccs, get ccs license, etc)

[H-man]

Hey Jiggy!

We haven't met, but I know of you from the WERA BBS.  Welcome to CCS.  I'll be at Gingerman that w/e too.  Be sure to look me up (grey trailer w/ "Black Ops Racing" on the sides).

Have you checked out the actual CCS website http://www.formulausa.com/forms for info about license reciprocity or obtaining a CCS license?

Oh yeah, PLEASE don't use that avatar you had at the other board.  It always disturbed me  :o ;D

  H-man
#42 (Am)

[Dawn]

You should be able to get a CCS license at the track by using you WERA license as credentials.  The schedule of events should be on line at www.ccsracing.com

Have fun!

Dawn   :)

[motomadness]

If you haven't been to the track before, come on Saturday, ride the track and meet and greet the CCS folks.  Might even be able to take care of your paperwork on Saturday afternoon.

[Sunny]

Brian, I was thinking about doing the same thing...........   ;D  Just got to do all the math to see if it'll cost too much (think I can only run my 400 competitively in one class).

[H-man]

...think I can only run my 400 competitively in one class.

Big deal ::)  I'm in two classes and not  competitive in either ;D

If you can get your money straight, just come on out and play anyway Sunny. 8)

H-man

[jigmoore]

thanks for the replies, folks!

h-man: what is your name on wera bbs....hman?  i saw you in the members list...  thanks for the link...was helpful, but i am too lazy to read through all 12 pages.....i will look for you at gingerman.

dawn:  saw that wera license plus $35 will get me a ccs license.  but didn't see any race schedule for that weekend...race times on each day.  did i miss it?

moto: yup.  been to gingerman a couple times.  planning on doing the stt day there oct2-3 with some friends also in preparation.

sunny:  i will look for you there.

so what i am basically getting is:
- i need to find a schedule so i know what time to show up.
- am hoping someone will tell me what classes i can race my (wera superstock legal) '02 gsxr 600 in.
- figure i can show up and get my license and register at the track on sat. and not have to do anything prior.

[r6_philly]

CCS race schedules in PDF format will be posted on ccsracing.com prior to the event. Look maybe 2 weeks before or later. USually they have it.

a GSXR 600 can enter:
MiddleWeight Supersport
MiddleWeight Superbike
MiddleWeight Grandprix
HeavyWeight Supersport
HeavyWeight Superbike
Unlimited Supersport
Unlimited GrandPrix

and 30 minute mini-endurance (not reallly 30 minute because the clock starts at 5 board)

GTU (middleweight)
GTO (unlimited)

You can show up on raceday morning, pay for your license (Which is less than $100 because it is the end of the year), pick the number you want and post-entry for races. Just bring your WERA license

[jigmoore]

thanks for telling me the classes.....

holy crap!  10 races?  wow.

[Sunny]

After reading the rulebook again, I found that my bike can't be competitive in any class.........   :-/

Basically according to the rulebook, I can only run my bike (1998 400) in LWSS althought not competitively against SV650.  Of course, there are other classes I could run which would put my bike at an even greater disadvantage.............   :-/  I guess CCS doesn't have any classes that allow a WERA SS legal 400 to be competitve in anything.  Is this because no one run a SS legal 4-stroke 400?  Anyway, doesn't look like I'll be racing in CCS until the rulebook changes to support SS legal 400.

If any of you race a SS legal 400 in CCS, please let me know what classes you raced in and how competitvely you are against other bikes.  

[H-man]

Jiggy - You're right, the schedule hasn't been posted for the 10/9-10 w/e.  More than likely it'll follow along the lines of the CCS 7/31-8/1 w/e.  If you ping me w/ a fax number, I'll fax that schedule to you tomorrow.

Sunny - Geez man!  Do you want to race or just go out there if you feel you can be among the top 5 or so.

My intreptation of the rules (and you can take that however you wish ;)) has your bike eligible for LWSS (as you noted), ULSB, LWGP & Thunderbike.  And of course you could choose to race up in the MWSS and LWSB classes.

Sunny, I'm pretty sure that you can run away from me on my F2.  So why not enter the TB race?  At least you won't be last ;D

Oh yeah, you better start lining up your tow vehicle now :-X;)

H.

[Jeff]

Gingerman is a 1 day event.  Sunday 10/10.  Saturday, is a LP Sport Rider day which racers can run for like $80.

Typically Gingerman runs their own practice on Friday for ~$100.  You can call them to be sure.

If I were spending your money.....

Show up on Friday night before 10pm to get into the track.  

Run LP practice on Saturday to straighten everything out.

Run 3-4 classes on Sun.  If I recall correctly, there are no GT races at Gingerman.  Only sprint races.

If you're currently a WERA rider, just show up with your race license and a checkbook/credit card/wad-o-cash.

The biggest thing that WERA people were getting dinged for in CCS tech, was showing up without gear, and having a non-yellow amateur plate (light green, flourescent(sp?) colors, etc).  Make SURE the plate is YELLOW, and the numbers are per the standards in the CCS rulebook or you'll be doing some ad-hoc work at the track.

Safety wire standards are less stringent in CCS from WERA, so you should have no problems.  

Other than that, pay attention to the instructions on "white line rule", entry and exit areas.