Its easy to become expert...

[lil_thorny]

You tards!
it is 750 points per class. The exceptions are always
guys who prove expert competency or truly don't belong with the experts ie., those unlike Kevin (sandbagger) ;D

waawaawaawaawaa.

quit yer belly aching and start racing you freaken
lollygaggers. What a bunch of wussies. I thought
racers were all crazy and psycho and SHIDT!
You keep whining, you will get bumped for sure, right off the track. Backmarkers, all of you. I am
ashamed to even know you...oh but wait, who the @#$% are you anyway?  Tisk.

Bring it.

And another thing,
Madxx,
quit worrying and start learning. You don't want to be an expert yet. Not until you learn how to not crash.
Trust me, I was an expert(at crashing) last year.
Ahhh, and look at me now....now I am an expert at trying to follow the leader. Don't be in such a hurry.
Bask in the glory of your amatuer season. It won't
last. For the rest of you, you suck.

I am the walrus.

[lil_thorny]

To begin, Amatures should not have champions. It seems hoaky. Amatures are supposed to be slower, so a fast slow guy champion? WTF is that? OK I'll buy it if it's a 1st year amature, but not a veteran and it shouldn't be called champion. Rookie of the year would seem a better fit.
 2nd, racing alot shouldn't move you up. Wood alot should. The same guy winning all season is boring and frustrating for real amatures. Darren D won about everything his rookie year and he earned it, I'm not taking anything away from him, but as an expert he's winning alot now. He was ready and blew 1/2 the season spanking people that could never come close to giving him a challenge. Racing is a shortlived carreer as it is, if someone is obviously ready, let them, at their option,move up, SO.
 Amature should be amature, NO money. It serves as an incentive to stay amature. Pay twice as far back in expert. A fast amature would still make money in expert and get a chance to compete with somebody.
 The way it is, it may be a balancing act to keep the grids similar size, I don't know, larger minds than mine work on it full time.

I agree with this exception: Money for AM's is an
incentive to get into the sport. I think that CCS is
pretty good at weeding out the sandbaggers. Well,
almost pretty good ;)

[Lowe119]

quit yer belly aching and start racing you freaken lollygaggers. What a bunch of wussies. I thought racers were all crazy and psycho and SHIDT!  You keep whining, you will get bumped for sure, right off the track. Backmarkers, all of you. I am ashamed to even know you...oh but wait, who the @#$% are you anyway?  

Am I missing something here? The only crazy and psycho racers I've seen are in sprint cars on oval tracks or on motocross bikes.

[MadXX]

You tards!
it is 750 points per class. ...

...

Madxx,
quit worrying and start learning. You don't want to be an expert yet. Not until you learn how to not crash.
Trust me, I was an expert(at crashing) last year.
Ahhh, and look at me now....now I am an expert at trying to follow the leader. Don't be in such a hurry.
Bask in the glory of your amatuer season. It won't
last. For the rest of you, you suck.

750 per class? where the heck does it say that ???  You'd have to get 12 1st place finishes for that.

I dont worry.  I question.  If I worried I would be learning knitting, not roadracing.   ;D

I know I need to learn.  I am not that good now but I plan on being significantly better (faster, more consistant and controlled) by the end of the year and heck, a guy's gotta have goals.  I could care less if I beat amateurs.  I want to beat experts. It may take a few years but I'll do it.  8)

[lil_thorny]

750 per class? where the heck does it say that ???  You'd have to get 12 1st place finishes for that.

I dont worry.  I question.  If I worried I would be learning knitting, not roadracing.   ;D

I know I need to learn.  I am not that good now but I plan on being significantly better (faster, more consistant and controlled) by the end of the year and heck, a guy's gotta have goals.  I could care less if I beat amateurs.  I want to beat experts. It may take a few years but I'll do it.  8)

not a few years, a few weekends. To be faster is to think faster. To think faster is to ride smoother. Now
we've come full circle haven't we? Chad, crashing happens, and you know like the rest of us that it sucks.  But did you sit yourself down and calmly think about what YOU did wrong?  Everytime I crash,
there is something that I did that I could have done different. The trick is surviving and learning. For me
the lower lap times were there early, but the consistency is what took me a while to learn. You will
see some fast lap times from AM's now and then, but
they fluctuate greatly upwards if not over a second
more or less than the last lap.  Super Dave teaches
the rythm of the sport. That was hard for me to learn. For example, HP will have an edge at tracks like RAmerica/Brainard...but the tricky technical tracks like BHF/Barber/Grattan/Gingerman, are riders
tracks where a rythm is necessary to being smooth and running faster.  Work on that , and everything else(set-up) will come. Also, the best advice that I can give you is this:
Pit next to the fastest guy out there! Watch and learn. Ask Ask Ask...don't be shy.

Lil thorny.

[xseal]

An amateur champion is definitely like being the tallest midget.  However, I did 2 weekends last year (both double points) and ended up with 590 points. I petitioned to stay a novice only to wait until my lap times were such that I could ride mid-pack with the experts. I'm not there yet, but should be there by the end of this season, when I'll look fwd to putting on white plates. As long as you're doing this for fun, I don't think its that complicated to figure out where you can learn the most. Once you start running consistently at the front of the novices, its time to move up.  

I like the 110-115% of record/lap times idea.  If you're much more than 10% slower than the fastest guys, I think its a little dangerous.  The CCS rules are pretty good, although they definitely contain enough room for people that want to abuse the system to get away with it, albeit only for a little while.

[GSXR RACER MIKE]

You tards!
it is 750 points per class.

     As much as I don't want you to start goin' off on my lame excuse for a racer self, your wrong on the points Benji. The 750 points for expert bump is combined points from all your classes that you ran during a 12 month period. That's the problem with the current system, you can run a ton of races during the year, get dead last points in every race, and end up well beyond the 750 points (total combined points). You could have gotten lapped 4 times in a sprint race at Road America and you would still get the same points as the last place guy that actually stays on the lead lap.

[Lowe119]

     You could have gotten lapped 4 times in a sprint race at Road America

Now THAT would be slow.  ;D

[lil_thorny]

it has changed then Mike. Per Tiffany and Kevin, last year, it was 500 points per any given class. I would have been an expert after my first weekend...and was protested to do so, but to no avail, I stayed a true 1st year amatuer.  Without the double points in effect, I still earned 550 points that weekend.

But like always, I could be wrong.

[tigerblade]

Now THAT would be slow.  ;D

Not to mention IMPOSSIBLE since we only ran 3 lap sprints on Sunday...   :P ;D

[Woofentino Pugrossi]

Not to mention IMPOSSIBLE since we only ran 3 lap sprints on Sunday...   :P ;D

Bet I could had done that. ;D ;D ;D

[speedster_1]

the rule book is not clear on the 750 point bump...I saw no mention of the 12month period  or 750 points per class.  It just says 750 points!