I guess bikers are second class citizens

[tshort]

 MC riders need to be out there with the understanding that legally they have equal rights on the road, but realistically, they do not.

Umm...yeah...like I said - second class citizens.  (I have never seen someone argue so vigorously in support of the point I was trying to make, while trying to argue the other side).

[tshort]

Off the subject, Tom, I had fun racing with you at Heartland park Topeka last season.

That was fun - thanks 742.  Sorry to hear about the blown up bike, tho - that sux.  Back on it this year?  I was down at Gateway yesterday.  Like tigerblade said, it was pretty slim turnout, especially for LW - LWSS=3 bikes (in expert), and it was Suzuki Cup racing this weekend, so LWSS and Supertwins (8 bikes) were both Cup money classes.

Maybe we'll cross paths again - always up for some riding.  

Hey Cook - you coming out to BHF in a couple weeks?

[Jeff]

Umm...yeah...like I said - second class citizens.  (I have never seen someone argue so vigorously in support of the point I was trying to make, while trying to argue the other side).

hehe... see, we agree! lol...  I'll let it go, because I DO see your point, I just feel a little different about the responsibility here, and let's face it, NEITHER of us know all the facts on it...

[tshort]

and let's face it, NEITHER of us know all the facts on it...

I'll cop to that - my initial post was based solely on what the Journal Sentinel article reported.  And we all know that you should believe every word you read in the papers, right? ;) ;D  Problem is, some people, especially non-bikers, *do* take it as given.  Then they get in their cages and figure, "oh what the heck - if I do accidentally mow down a biker it won't be a big deal.  I'll just tell the cop that I couldn't see him/her (they shouldn't let those crazy death machines on the roads anyways...)"  Ya know?  Good discussion, tho.

[rubberducky]

actually, after the motor blew, I said piss on it! I was planning on getting a 600 anyway. I moved to Ga this winter so I am running WERA mainly. There is some pretty tough comp. down here. My grids at Barber were 57-61-67. Not like in the lw class. Kind of crazy having to start in back with the squids. Or should I say scary. Are you coming down to Barber for CCS in aug.? It is so smooth, unlike topeka. By the way I have some pictures of us during that little battle. Couple are good the rest are so-so.

[dylanfan53]

Hey Don. Aren't you a little old to be riding a Gixxer 1000? ;D

Nah.  Well...I'm a little too old to be riding with the front wheel in the air. :P ;)

[dylanfan53]

 Hey Cook - you coming out to BHF in a couple weeks?

Yep, I should be there.  Sorry I missed Gateway. This summer's going to be tough timewise.  I've got family responsibilities (good stuff I have to do with my teenage son) that will take me out of town a lot, but I hope to do most of the local race weekends. See you there!

[tshort]

Don - see you there, too (as long as it's not raining).  

Ducky - doubt I'll make it to Barber, altho it is a track that sounds like a lot of fun to check out.  If I do get down there, it would probably be with CCS - didn't renew WERA lic this year.  have fun with those guys (and ask Stumpy about 60 bike grids in middleweights - that was RA a few weeks ago - just in expert - another 40 in Am.  Wild).

[Racingxtc7]

I'm sure everyone has seen the new sign there putting up by road constuction" hit a road worker will cost you $14,000 and jail time"!!! The problem is the perception is that a car hits a motorcycle. THATS WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The car hits a MOTORCYCLIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The laws need to change so that hitting a motorcycle/motorcyclist is the same as hitting a pedestrian! A PERSON! Also, vehicles need to be consittered a killing device. I'd being willing to bet that a person has a better chance of surviving a gun shot than being ran over by car doing 65 mph.

Jeff

[tigerblade]

Did you guys see that Janklow got out of jail today?   >:(

[Baltobuell]

 Yes I saw that and it's disgusting. Remember he was a politician/lawyer. If you would have run over him you'd be serving a life sentence. Different rules for different people is what undermines everything the USA is supposed to be about.

[tzracer]

The AMA is trying to get laws put in place to put more severe penalties for injuring/killing motorcyclists.

I street ride, as screwed up as the AMA is when it comes to racing, they do a great deal to help street riders (such as being able to use HOV and carpool lanes). That is why I am still a member since 1980.