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Started by GSXR RACER MIKE, March 06, 2004, 11:20:16 AM

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Team_nuclear123

I wanted to give some credit to Jack Pfeifer , Lee Acree, and Ricky Orlando (didnt he crash in the chicane??) Great to see some guys on privateer equipment run hard and only get lapped once in a 200 mile race!

Real bummer for Ben, Eric, Yates, and Most of all for Pegram who coudl have finished as high as 5th I think, if everyone had stayed in it. His bike was down on power but he was making it up in the infield big time. One brake rotor bolt backs out, and his day is done!

And Killer job to the Jakester!


I for one think that the 600ss race was one of the most awesome races of all time! Disalvo  was just nutz to swerve into Rog like that!

Steviebee

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i was wondering when they announced the change from 112% to 110% ??   K. Hansen didnt make the 110% cut and he was soooo close too. I wonder if he new that when qualifying?

37 riders thats like an ameture MW club race ! Doesnt the race pay back to 45 or 55 something like that ?



Yates should be bared from the next race weekend for that shit!

Chef

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     Too bad for Ben Bostrom trashing his Honda's transmission (apparently), he might have had a chance at winning it.

did you headbutt fania or what? that should be fined... If it was me I would let him have it... all of it

I think he should be reprimanded in some way that makes a difference, not just some stupid slap on the wrist.

thats the most unsportsman like conduct for a professional.


Sh!t happens and you can be angery, but you don't take physical confrontations, not in the view of thousands of people while you are representing your company on TV.

Two words:  Assault charges

I would offer to repair Fania's machine as a goodwill gesture only and to save some face.  If this happened in CCS, we would allow charges to be filed and some serious punishment.

Props to Fania for not stooping down as low and fight back. I don't know if I would have held back  
 
something better be done to yates, that is just way to far. I would just lie down on the ground and complain my back is hurting after yates kicked me :p charges, civil suit, whatever  

credit to Jack Pfeifer , Lee Acree, and Ricky Orlando (didnt he crash in the chicane??) Great to see some guys on privateer equipment run hard and only get lapped once

Real bummer for Ben, Eric, Yates, and Most of all for Pegram who coudl have finished as high as 5th

HEY, YOU GUYS SAID ALL I WANTED TO SAY...
THANKS... 8)



40. Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate, but powerful beyond measure. We were all meant to shine, as children do. When our light shines, we liberate others.

Chef

Quote9 races in the last two seasons with the outcome being determined by lappers...

 
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I dont agree with that 200 being determined by a lapper,...

I'm not all that fast, but just the same as in everyday traffic, "rear-ending" someone would be MY fault....

Ike
(just opinion)  ;)
40. Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate, but powerful beyond measure. We were all meant to shine, as children do. When our light shines, we liberate others.

james-redsv

QuoteYa know, its a good thing that Yates wasnt in contention for the lead when Fania was being lapped (second time??)

9 races in the last two seasons with the outcome being determined by lappers...

I do NOT support what Yates did, btw... It was a stupid reaction... But he just saw his win and his multi hundred thousand dollar bonus go up in smoke, and his chance to shut Mat up...

The grid was very small this year, but outside of that yates incident, I only saw, what, 7 guys on the race? The one on TV...
Sorry but lappers didnt take Yates out, Yates took himself out with that stupid move around the outside. He had 4th wrapped up and had no chance at the win. What was he thinking? "If I pass this guy anyway possible I might be able to get up front in 4 laps", what a moron. This is what I call, out of control, stupid aggression. His win go up in smoke? He wasnt even close to the front and his tires were shot, he had no chance at the win unless the top 3 took each other out. Did you watch the same race as the rest of us? How come Mat, Jake, and Duhumel didnt have one problem with lappers? Because they were patient, and safely passed them, just what Yates didnt do.

GSXR RACER MIKE

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QuoteI dont agree with that 200 being determined by a lapper,...

I'm not all that fast, but just the same as in everyday traffic, "rear-ending" someone would be MY fault....

Ike
(just opinion)  ;)


     Hey Ike and James, don't bite on this one, he's a real antagonist about lappers and will just keep egg-ing everyone on and on about it like he's done in the past. If you remember, he was the 1 saying that Bostrom wasn't to blame for the 4 bike crash at the AMA Barber event last year.

     It's always been clear that it's the responsibility of the passer to pass safely, and just like the Bostrom incident at Barber last year a Pro made a mistake and should take responsibility for it. If a racer lacks the ability to pass other riders, then mabey they need to go back to regional racing and learn to do it!
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james-redsv

Yea, I know about Team Unclear, I just couldnt help myself. ;D

r6_philly

interesting, the 200 pays back to 60th place. They had 37 people on the grid. Rick Shaw missed it by .4 or something.

But for FX, Superstock at least, they used the same old 112% cut off time. So they tried to put more people on the grid. I would think they want to do that in Superbike since most people have sink alot of money and time into prepping for the 200. And the final standing had what, 20 some people in the running at the end, not real good size.

and about lappers, if you look at Jack, Lee and Opie and others in the top 10, they are not running blazing times, and they get lapped a few times, its consistency and longevity that does well in the 200. people will get lapped there and passed because of the pit stops. it should not be an issue of who's in the way. They should know how to get by someone without crashinginto them. It is not life and death to win a race, so don't make it that way.

K3 Chris Onwiler

Yates should lose his ride!  Is that how you represent your sponsors?  Comitting assault on a live, world-wide telecast?  Never mind the fact that the incident was entirely Yates's fault.  His behavior would have been completely unacceptable even if he'd been the innocent victim.
 I am very greatful for the sponsorship that I have recieved.  (I choose not to mention my sponsors while discussing this subject.)  I try to conduct myself as an employee of my sponsors, be it on, off, or away from the track.  Behavior like Yates displayed would certianly get me fired and arrested if I did it at my regular job.  Racing a motorcycle and representing Suzuki are Yates's job.  He should be fired at the very least.
Now let's see what AMA and Suzuki decide to do...
The frame was snapped, the #3 rod was dangling from a hole in the cases, and what was left had been consumed by fire.  I said, "Hey, we've got all night!"
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r6_philly

read:

http://www.cyclenews.com/ShowStory.asp?HeadlineID=5922

apparently according fania sr. american suzuki team is just the same bit of aholes as yates were

Team_nuclear123

Dont be suprised if Yates DOES lose his ride...  The incident was in clear violation of his contract....

R_6.. Rick Shaw... That was such a bummer... Did everyone catch the emotional interview with him? I thought they should have given him a provisional start, let him run one lap, just to keep his streak alive... That was the lowlight of the whole week as far as Im concerned...

BTW, did anyopne catch the remarks that  Mat said about EB?? What an azzhole... It will be REAL interesting to see what he has to say now...

Steviebee

just goes to show how fucked up the ama is !