SE Banquet?

[MELK-MAN]

This past weekend Jan 24/25 the track days at Jennings had 100+ participants each day and the unique Church of Speed event at No Problem Race Track attracting a lot of participants is proof positive of the potential in the South. These orgs seem to be delivering a product their customers want.

There were 90-100 riders at Jennings both days this past weekend. however, its between seasons. many (including myself) were "tunin up" for the upcomming season opening for us here in FL region at HOmestead. As the racing season gets underway, myself and others do few trackdays.

[SE#39]

Thanks for responding Kevin -- yeah Buddha, I thought you would enjoy that one. Heck, I can remember back in the day when you could fit in size 36 pants!
 
Anyway back to the CCS-SE Region's condition -- the return of the GTO-U-L races for 04 is a positive, thanks for that one.
But I'm not keen on the twin sprint concept -- you seem to be racing the same ten guys eight times over two days. I recognize the benefits for some racers and it does inflate your "entries" count while the "head" count is unchanged -- probably increasing gross revenue for that weekend. You know what they say about stats.
Rd Atl is the hub of the SE Region and CCS must get back there or it will remain a fringe player in this region. Heck Kevin -- you used to be able fill the track during Sunday quiet period with a street riders parade. Lots of bike riders in the greater Atl area.
 
We agree that track days are indeed the bane of race orgs -- but maybe there is a way to include them into a CCS SE-Region race weekend.
Henry"s CCS FL-Region format of practice on Sat and race on Sun could be adopted and the Sat schedule becomes the track day.
This would allow a Sat schedule of alternating groups for Ex, AM and Street riders.
Even if you have to sacrifice the GTO-U-L races to accomodate the Sun sprints the racers can get in some long runs on Sat so it may be acceptable.
The primary benefit would be exposure of the race program to track day riders resulting in more racers for CCS.
Gross revenue could be greater with both racers and track riders paying for their Sat track day to offset reduced race entry revenues.        
Maybe this rough suggestion will help you get the SE-Region growing again.
 
Doug

[CCS]

CCS asks Road Atlanta every year for a date, and sometimes they even call us back to tell us they are booked up.(If CCS was to get to run a sportsman race at Road Atl, it would be fine financially, it is when the event becomes a spectator event that the contract changes and it becomes a loser for CCS.)

So far our experience with LP USA Sport Rider Days has shown that just giving the track day rider a taste isn't enough to get them into racing. 75% of our Sport Riders never intend to race, and a large portion of the remaining 25% only buy a license so as to get to run at track days that require a competition license. We haven't given up on the program, in fact  we are using it in some places to make it possible to hold races were there aren't enough entries to make the weekend break even financially. (Entries are entries, no matter where or how we get them, and we need them to keep the series going.)

[GAMEDIC]

.(If CCS was to get to run a sportsman race at Road Atl, it would be fine financially, it is when the event becomes a spectator event that the contract changes and it becomes a loser for CCS.)

Well Kevin why not do it like most other tracks and the only people in could be "crew" i'm sure everyone would be fine with that and you said yourself that you could still make money that way... If we had Rd A i would not have to go to Jennings..lol

[bfkidd]

Personally, I don't see the point of running the GT races and twin sprints in the same weekend. There is no way I am going to go out there and race 30 minutes and 4 sprint races in the same day. Even though I would most likely win at least my entry fee back it isn't worth the cost of physical exertion and tires, especially in Savannah during the summer. Amateurs will probably do it because it's good for track time, but I already know where the track goes and so it has no appeal for me.

[CCS]

Well Kevin why not do it like most other tracks and the only people in could be "crew" i'm sure everyone would be fine with that and you said yourself that you could still make money that way... If we had Rd A i would not have to go to Jennings..lol

The problem goes back to Road Atl not wanting another sportsman event . (CCS is a sportsman event.)  Road Atlanta is looking for more spectator events, that is why the "rider and crew only" won't fly there, because when you do it that way it is a sportsman event and that is not what they are looking for.

[CCS]

Personally, I don't see the point of running the GT races and twin sprints in the same weekend. There is no way I am going to go out there and race 30 minutes and 4 sprint races in the same day. Even though I would most likely win at least my entry fee back it isn't worth the cost of physical exertion and tires, especially in Savannah during the summer. Amateurs will probably do it because it's good for track time, but I already know where the track goes and so it has no appeal for me.

There is a portion of our racing contingent that perfers the longer event, and we are trying to give them what they are looking for. We also realize it will potentially lower entries in other classes, that is why they will run before lunch, to give some "recovery" time to those who need it, like me... ;D

[GAMEDIC]

The problem goes back to Road Atl not wanting another sportsman event . (CCS is a sportsman event.)  Road Atlanta is looking for more spectator events, that is why the "rider and crew only" won't fly there, because when you do it that way it is a sportsman event and that is not what they are looking for.

Well that sucks :-/

[Jkf95]

How does WERA get Road Atlanta then?

I believe like some others that there are alot of potential for growth in CCS in the SE if Atlanta was possible.  In my area (except for Barber) all other tracks are minimum 8 hr away.

[cstem]

But DUDE- You got Barber!  I have not been there _maybe this year (PLEEZE Kevin) -but have seen it on the tube and it just blows every track I have been to away!  I guess eight hours is a long way though.  But don't forget us West Coasters and Southwest have to drive alot to race, but then the morning commute takes us longer sometimes.  By the way, this reply was just a shameless plug to ask Kevin to get me to Barber!

[quicktoy]

ahh barber aint that big of a deal, i mean fast changing elevation blind turns, nice traightaways, great top, unreal paddock tears, can see the whole track from viewing points, beautiful museum.......but dont worry bro, your not missing much
;-) hehehehehehe

[badmonkey]

"Badmonkey"! You missed your calling! You should have been a comedian, as you sure don't know anything about roadracing you fool! ???

HD

your right, I should take your lead and run my own region...Oh but that takes no brains and money ,Oh well I'll let you fill those clown shows Mr. Degouge... ;D