SE Banquet?

[Peanut]

Is there 1?

[TreyBone]

I think they are gonna have it at VIR next year, like they have the last couple of years. By the look of the schedule for SE next year, there probably won't be a SE region anymore after 2004. Out of a 10 race weekend schedule ... 4 of them are in Florida and 1 in Alabama ( that one is OK though, but sucks when they combine it with 3 other regions). CCS puts 3 races in Jennings FL and not even one at CMP. CMP is a true SouthEast track. With the improvements made there in the last 2 years it is really a nice place to race. I just don't get it. :-/

Face it. The SouthEast region is a dying region in CCS. Sad to see. :-/

[ecumike]

Trey, whatca talkin' about?

3 races @VIR, 2 @RRR, and 1@Barber.

That's 6 SE region races.

[james-redsv]

Yea, I agree Trey, the SE is the redheaded step child of CCS. ??? CCS really does need to go back to CMP and Jennings GP is not in the SE.  :P

[SE#39]

T-Bone is correct about the demise of the CCS-SE region.
WERA is the dominant org in the SE region by making fewer mistakes marketing their services to SE region racers but they also seem to be losing ground.
The SE region has an abundance of racers - riders of sport bikes and race tracks. The growth of track days and race schools at every track in the SE region has cut the market share of both WERA and CCS in the SE region.
20 years ago when I started the race orgs were the only way to get on a race track but these days I do more track days than race events.
I'm not unique in this preference many of the racers I know share this pref.
 
In some regions with only one track and one race org the old formula may still be successful but in the SE region CCS has not matched customer-racer demands and their market share is shrinking.
 
CCS no longer races at -- Rd Atl, CMP, TGPR and other tracks in the SE region.
CCS no longer offers the 50 miler GTO/GTU races at Roebling and other tracks -- instead they offer the unpopular double race weekend format.
CCS is percieved to be the most expensive option in the SE region and offering less track time than their competitors -- the worst bang for the buck.
CCS SE region officials are percieved to be less capable than WERA officials and this was demonstrated when both orgs ran high attendance races at Barber last season.
CCS SE region races are frequently scheduled the weekend following WERA at the same track. WERA attendance is usually better.
A declining CCS-SE region racer base results in fewer entries at both Daytona events -- the CCS holy grail.  
 
Back in the late 80's when Roger and Peggy Edmondson ran it the CCS SE region dominated the market -- even promoting a winter series at Roebling and hiring Kevin Elliot to run the show. The good old days when CCS-SE region responded to their customer-racer's needs.

[james-redsv]

T-Bone is correct about the demise of the CCS-SE region.
WERA is the dominant org in the SE region by making fewer mistakes marketing their services to SE region racers but they also seem to be losing ground.
The SE region has an abundance of racers - riders of sport bikes and race tracks. The growth of track days and race schools at every track in the SE region has cut the market share of both WERA and CCS in the SE region.
20 years ago when I started the race orgs were the only way to get on a race track but these days I do more track days than race events.
I'm not unique in this preference many of the racers I know share this pref.
 
In some regions with only one track and one race org the old formula may still be successful but in the SE region CCS has not matched customer-racer demands and their market share is shrinking.
 
CCS no longer races at -- Rd Atl, CMP, TGPR and other tracks in the SE region.
CCS no longer offers the 50 miler GTO/GTU races at Roebling and other tracks -- instead they offer the unpopular double race weekend format.
CCS is percieved to be the most expensive option in the SE region and offering less track time than their competitors -- the worst bang for the buck.
CCS SE region officials are percieved to be less capable than WERA officials and this was demonstrated when both orgs ran high attendance races at Barber last season.
CCS SE region races are frequently scheduled the weekend following WERA at the same track. WERA attendance is usually better.
A declining CCS-SE region racer base results in fewer entries at both Daytona events -- the CCS holy grail.  
 
Back in the late 80's when Roger and Peggy Edmondson ran it the CCS SE region dominated the market -- even promoting a winter series at Roebling and hiring Kevin Elliot to run the show. The good old days when CCS-SE region responded to their customer-racer's needs.

So what shoud we do? Switch to WERA or just ride track days? The WERA SE schedule isnt much better either. :-/

[GAMEDIC]

well my input ... i would like to do CMP ..and i still do not know the real reason we do not race Road Atlanta it is not any worse than any other track we race now so why not... i'm not to fond of Tally but i would race there if it was on our schedule  ..so CCS ...why not CMP  and Rd A?

[TreyBone]

Thank GOD someone sees it like I do. I though I was the only one there for a while. I still don't know what I am gonna do next year. I renewed my licence for CCs/FUSA. I know I will run the VIR and RRR rounds but the others I don't think so.

[mw]

Geographically speaking, why don't you think of Jennings as SE.  I think it's more SE than VIR. People don't realize it's only 1 mile from Georgia and nobody would argue that Georgia isn't SE.  

[GAMEDIC]

I say if we are going to have a FL region either let CCS run it or get rid of it.. nothing against the racers ... i love getting beat by you guys at NFMP ..LOL i would be happy if they took the Fl races .. off the SE and put back CMP and RD A

[TiffineyIngram]

I'm not sure where some of you are getting your information, but perhaps you should go to the source instead of listening to gossip.  SE 39 does not know our entry numbers and does not know why things are scheduled as they are.  The Southeast reigon is not going away.  And as far as CCS being the "most expensive option", that is just not true.  WERA's fees are $5 more expensive per class then ours, plus you have to purchase or rent a transponder.  Our transponders are included in your race fees.

[GAMEDIC]

Hey Tiff .. can you tell me why we will not Race Road Atlanta?  and CMP for that matter?