Bumps

[GregR6]

Greg--I'm not sure what you mean.  That wasn't about you in any way.  I have three seperate letters on my desk from three different racers with this same situation.  I haven't looked into your stats.
 ???

I am gonna have to call you on this... ::) No way in hell someone has the EXACT same racing history, much less in the same year as I do. Besides, you even went into the top 5 in all but 3, the "fraction-of-an-event" that I, IMO, appropriately used, as well as using the magic number of "15th" from my "first" race event.

Haven't looked into my stats? Sorry... not buying it... 8)

Why do you have petitions already? I haven't got anything from you guys yet...

[madanalyst]

Tiff, you've been great so far in replying to me.  Wanted to say a big thanks.  I hope one of those petitions you're sitting on is from me.  If not, i plan to send it in along with 04 application as you suggested earlier.  Was wondering what some of the riders felt about my finishes this past yr and CCSs intention of moving me to expert.  First, take notice that i received my license in Apr 03, had first race on home track (Jennings) in May 03, and have only been to Moroso 4x and have yet to step foot on third track in our region (Homestead).  Here's my record to the 4 races  i normally compete in at every race event.  

1)  5/3 at jennings -- MWSB 4:10; MWGP 2:4; GTU 7:16; MWSS 15:17.
2)  5/25 at moroso -- MWSB 8:11; MWGP 5:9; GTU 12:19; MWSS 8:23.
3) 7/20 at moroso -- MWSB 4:11; GTU 9:20; MWSS 15:17.
4) 8/24 at moroso -- MWSB 3:13; GTU 8:23; MWSS 7:25.
5) 9/7 at jennings -- MWSB 7:16; MWGP 2:8; GTU 9:21; MWSS 9:28.
6) 9/21 at moroso -- MWSB 6:9; MWGP 3:6; GTU 10:18; MWSS 8:20.

Should i be an expert with this?  6 race events under my belt.  Thankfully no crashes and i indeed seem to have improved in my finishes as the yr progressed, but after i learned that pre-registering indeed gets me a front row start.  A big help in some of the SS races, where the # of riders #s 20+.  It seems from this that i'm a mid-packer with consistent finishes but my no means walking away dominating any of the races.  I'd like to stay amat 1 more yr, where i surely gain more experience and have a shot of making some contingency if i so happen to ride the wheels off the bike to stay ahead of riders that consistently finished in front of me and are staying amat next yr as well.  

[TiffineyIngram]

Go ahead and call--out of 5000 riders, you can't be the only one who has this race history.  I don't use the board to "call out" people.  And although I cannot name names of whose petition I have, I assure you, I am not talking about you.  The people I am talking about aren't even in your region.  I received these in Phoenix.  You weren't in Phoenix, were you?

[GregR6]

ok. ;)

and nope.


"After looking into his profile, I discover that he neglected to mention in his case that he not only raced last year, but placed in the top 15 out of 40+ bike grids in all of his races on what I now know was his "first" race weekend ever. ...Would you accept this petition? "

Rather interesting though that this was based on petitions you got at Pheonix, was it?  And the coincidence that MY first event was at the end of 02, and placed top 15 out of 40+ grids...

 Funny.. ??? I couldn't find 1 race in SW or PAC with a grid over 40 in 2002.

[ahastings]

Greg, think if you grovel enough she will let you stay am. ?Are you trying to convince her you need to stay or convince yourself? I notice you are the most vocal I have seen on this board and in other threads as well. Just send in your petition and go with the flow. You can always switch to another org.  ;) if it doesn't go your way and you are so convinced you don't belong in the expert class. Here is my opinion- if you are a young guy and want to try to go somewhere in this sport you might as well go expert now, it seems you have a steep learning curve. You came to Summit I think you said it was your first time there and ran up near the front. I did real well at Summit but that is the only track I raced on and did a lot of track days there. I am petitioning as well but not really expecting much.But I am an old guy (41) and don't expect to get much faster. If I go expert I prob. just won't race quite as much because it will be more expensive without a chance at contingencies. This petition thing is strange to me , I am a long time mx racer and at least in our district when you get the points you move up to the next level. How long you have been racing is irrelevant because some people might only do 2 or 3 races a year and others do 5 - 10 or more.

[r6_philly]

I guess even if she is not talking about you greg, the case may be pretty solid. So we shall have another battle at VIR next year.

Although beating me doesn't really mean you are EX material, you beat me in the first race that you ever entered :) although I rectified that situation later that weekend  ;D :P

[GregR6]

Can we get a new number for EX?? Not that I don't like my number...  ;D But I'll be sure to have my app in before Jan 1.

You can bet on it man.  ;) We'll have some fun. I'm done arguing the issue. At this point, I want to think she's just joking around and not an integrity issue... no Tiff, I'm not calling you a liar... but sheesh if that 1 specific post isn't obvious...  ::) :P

[TiffineyIngram]

This is why I shouldn't have even responded in the first place.  I removed the post people think is about them, and I'll just stay away from this thread.  I was trying to help, but instead I'm just getting accused of things that aren't true.  

P.S.--That rider I am referring to raced at Daytona last fall.  That was his first race, and yes, there are more than 40 bikes on a grid.

[GregR6]

Again, I'm not accusing anyone of anything. But since you continue to defend the statement that your hypothetical petition isn't about me, I chose to research it further... I knew when I posted my last "argument" about 40+ grids in SW/PAC that "Daytona" could be your only 'rebuttal'.
At this point, according to CCS's records, I'm confident I am the only one of "5000+" racers with the exact characteristics of your "hypothetical petition/situation".

If Daytona 02 was his first race, (which is kinda odd to begin with, especially being a west coast guy) that means he started at the back... and according to you, finished top 15 of 40+ grids. But he couldn't have finished better than 5th, or he wouldn't be able to petition for 04. Well, there were less than a handfull of races of 35+ (further giving u benifit of the doubt) at Daytona in 02, and only 1 racer had top 15 in them whose hometown was anything remotely West. Since you don't name racers, I won't either... This specific racer DID race in 03. But 1. he did more than 3 events, and 2, he did NOT finish "Top 5 in all but 3 races". He DID have over 1000 points though.
But with a PI of well under .500, your "finished quite well all year" statement really doesn't apply to him.

I give up. Have I ever mentioned that I'm a part time detective....  ;D

[Mark Bernard]

Ok... let me chime in here. "GET OFF OF TIFFINES BACK! She is a busy person and dont have time to listen to you squabble over who she is talking about. Bottom line is if you dont want to go expert next year... then write a pitition when you renew your license. It's that friggin simple. Tiff has enough to do with out having to answer bone headed people who just want to bithc, moan, and complain because they dont want to go expert. This is not the place to pitition as Tiff has said time and time again! GET A CLUE PEOPLE !!!!

[GregR6]

Hey Alfred, read my sig... it's not about the petition any more.  >:(

Perhaps you're not even reading the posts... or you'd already understand that. ::)

[Mark Bernard]

Alfred??? Oh ok.... I see how you are! ;) I have been readin this post. The "get off Tiff's back" was geared toward you! The pitition issue it for those that it applies to. And the name is Mark!   ;D